You really expect Trans people to vote for someone who advocates their death? I mean really?

Whole lot of fucking losers in this thread who took a green text seriously. What’s the first rule of a green text you idiots?

60 that we know of.

Then why doesn’t he do that? What’s his issue? Which party this time? You see my point? He’s not picking a third party. Because frankly there’s not one. Not in Texas. Not this year.

There’s not an issue he’s backing. There’s not a candidate he’s backing. There’s not a change he’s trying to force. After all it’s Texas the change would be not Republican. 35 years of the same party controlling the state top to bottom if you want change you’d want that to change. But that’s not what he wants. He’s not trying to get you to vote for third party. He’s trying to get you to not vote Democrat. Him and his friend Greg Abbott don’t want that.

By the way just as an aside, the Texas green party is a fucking travesty. They are simply the worst. They don’t stand for anything anymore. In my local elections the best environmentally conscious candidate by a mile wouldn’t even run under their ticket because was so disgusted with them.

Man that pissed me off. He said it right as early voting started. Choose third party because every side’s bad. How would you fucking know Matthew? This is Texas. There’s only been one side for 35 years. How the fuck would you know both sides are bad? Like I’m not saying he’s wrong necessarily I just don’t think he has that information.

And if you’re going to sit there and blather about voting third party pick a fucking third party. Which third party Matthew McConaughey? Who you backing? Are you saying vote libertarian? You picking up the green party? I don’t even remember seeing them on the ballot. Pick a candidate you bongo playing lunatic. Fucking coward.

I’ve seen this argument parroted a few times online. Unfortunately it just does not hold water whatsoever. We have 50, or closer to 60 now, years of liberal policy in America that flies in the face of this argument 100%. We have decades of anti labor, anti-regulation, Pro corporate, pro Wall Street, anti civil liberties and all around liberal policies to show us otherwise.

It’s no coincidence that we are where we are. Because as you alluded to it’s not just one party. Republicans are absolutely liberal, or they were before the last 10 years at least. As were Democrats. That’s the history of American politics basically since the beginning. Two liberal parties. One leaning slightly more conservative and one leaning slightly more Progressive. Or some might put it, the party of the grand bourgeoisie and the party of the petite bourgeoisie. But both fundamentally liberal. America was the first great liberal Revolution and it is something that gas guided us ever since. But it has not changed.

You mentioned the Old Guard of the Democratic party being “classical liberal” instead of your supposed new definition. However that Old Guard has been just the guard for a very long time. I would argue always. It’s not a remnant. It’s a feature. With the new arising of the new Democrats in the '80s. Clinton and Gore and their ilk. What did their rise to power bring about? Massive deregulation. The gutting of Labor. With their Republican allies they instituted an extremely liberal policy that tore apart any Progressive advances that had been made in the previous decades. Though it’s not like Jimmy Carter didn’t put his stamp on it either. Was Obama old guard? I wouldn’t argue so certainly, yet there’s a very good reason why when he tried to implement his liberal free trade policies he had all of the Republicans and about half the Democrats behind him. Certainly his expansion of their surveillance state and protecting big Banks like Wells Fargo were extremely liberal policies of a classical nature.

We could go on and on. The point is It doesn’t hold up. This concept of a new definition of liberal just doesn’t coincide with reality. Because the reality of what the Liberals in America vote for what they support what they legislate is the exact same definition of what liberals world over do. So when people tell you that liberalism is a different word in America understand that that’s a psyop. Because liberals and conservatives in America would love you to think that liberalism is as far left as you can go. They would love you not to have a actual Progressive Party. Which is what the Democratic party pretends to be but it’s actually a liberal party with a few progressives chained up in the bowels of the boat.

Are you sure you are a liberal? Cuz it sounds to me that you’re way to the left of liberals. I could be wrong though. Maybe you are a liberal. Maybe you’re one of that group of people that every single time it comes to supporting the the workers or supporting fascism you’ll support fascism. Cuz that’s what liberals do.

Liberals will always turn against the working class. We have 300 years of human history that backs this lesson up and I have no sympathy for people who have refused to learn from it.

Well yeah liberals value property more than human life. That’s been true for all of liberalism. I’d say it’s the core tenet of liberalism. For liberalism private property is the most sacred belief they have.

The entire point of the 2nd Amendment was to put down slave rebellions. Don’t kid yourself into thinking it had some nobler purpose.