• eicker@lemmy.worldOP
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    13 days ago

    Character.AI discovered the one conversation its bots couldn’t keep going: the one with its accountants. $56 million in compute costs in eight months, and the monetization strategy was apparently: hope the next investor is even lonelier than our users. Silicon Valley keeps confusing engagement with a business model.

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      13 days ago

      If LLMs can’t be made more power efficient, then the technology isn’t ready yet for general use. There may have to be fundamental engineering breakthroughs before what these systems do can be more than a very expensive and inefficient worldwide proof of concept.

      Of course, the military and the surveillance industry will still want to keep it, even if no one else can afford it, and we’ll be the ones paying for it.

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        13 days ago

        But without widespread usage there won’t be any breakthroughs… Anti-LLM folk could redirect their attention to the core problem (energy source, wind and solar shouldn’t raise any concerns) but they prefer to attack the LLMs themselves. Early implementations of every technology were crazy energy ineffective at the moment when becoming practically useful.

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          13 days ago

          No one should be arguing if LLMs are useful or worth investing into, they are and it can be a really useful tool, but the rich (seemingly spinless) lizards have managed to skyrocket the price of RAM, pushed global warming to new extrimes and jacked up electricity prices. Oh and while making an AI bubble so big and fradgile, that when (not if) popped will send us back to the great depression! All in the percute of “the next big thing”.

          to;dr LLMs are a cool tech but in the percute of it have managed to fuck up a whole bunch

  • CovfefeKills@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    If any of this shit made sense and worked like it was supposed to we wouldn’t be in this position in the first place. Seemingly the world leaders and everyone in the inner circles has completely abandoned any long term hope for their positions in the current system and are preparing for the next system. It really is true that the Earth has too many people and I think the long term planners are letting climate change happen without preparing the masses so fewer, stronger people survive. There is people planning this shit it’s not just arbitrarily short-term profits for the sake of it.

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      12 days ago

      The earth does not have too many people though. We are not at risk of overpopulation by any real metric.

      Resource scarcity is not a result of too many people needing not enough resources, but a result of those resources not being spread evenly. Whether because of geographical or political reasons, typically a mix of both.

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        12 days ago

        It’s not about humanity it is about Earth. We aren’t meant to divide her resources to 8 billion people in any distribution. Your magical solution to distribute all resources evenly doesn’t really solve human driven climate change and destruction of our environments. And it’s not about convincing me ask yourself why would a commercial planet have too many staff members that’s bad for business.

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          12 days ago

          We can use resources without causing climate change. Hell human cause climate change is a pretty recent development when it comes to human history, and it’s not because there’s more people.

          And what the fuck are you talking about a “commercial planet” are you stupid.

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            12 days ago

            For real, if we had even resource distribution I’d be building solar or something useful, but I have a mortgage so I guess I’ll just keep having this chatbot analyze financial statistics or whatever the fuck I’m doing

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            12 days ago

            The explosion of the global population is also rather recent. Just 100 years ago global population was less than a quarter than it is today. And going back to the middle ages, earth didn’t even have half of a billion people. And resources for all those people need to come from somewhere, hard to do this without causing climate change.

            • LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world
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              12 days ago

              Except it’s not the result of the population increase, it’s the result of industrialization.

              We have the resources. We can provide for everyone on earth easily without also destroying it.

              Otherwise if you genuinely thought there were too many people, you should logically kill yourself otherwise you’re a hypocrite.

              I’m not saying you actually should because that’s stupid, this whole idea is just ecofascism. But if you’re pushing this bullshit then you better follow through.

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            12 days ago

            Human driven climate change is new, it is not sustainable. And commercial planet as in a commercial country you fucking moron.

            • LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world
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              12 days ago

              You’re right. It’s not sustainable. It’s not the result of overpopulation though.

              And yeah I still have no clue what that’s supposed to mean.

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                12 days ago

                I don’t care about your opinion.

                And that’s fine I don’t care if you don’t care to even google what it might mean.

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                  11 days ago

                  It’s not an opinion though. Overpopulation is a fascist myth. If you actually bought into it you’d kill yourself but you haven’t yet. Because you know that’s stupid.

                  Also I did and didn’t find anything relevant to whatever nonsense you were saying so you’re just pulling shit outta your ass or using the wrong words.

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    12 days ago

    I’m guessing all the “confidential” chats that the users made with them are now on sale for the highest bidder