“We’re seeing a war against trans individuals being waged by our federal government, and we, as citizens, need to be willing to step up and say this is not OK,” Kluwe said. “The Democratic Party has taken a very defensive posture on trans issues when that’s the absolute wrong thing to do. You don’t make a bully go away by cowering in the corner and say, I’ll agree with you on these little things. That just encourages the bully.
“We need to be full-throated in the attack, saying these are people who pay taxes, who serve in our military, and who are entitled to the exact same rights that every single other American is entitled to, which includes health care and the opportunity to live a prosperous life. We can’t be afraid of the right-wing fear machine. We have to take it to them, show that we’re willing to fight.”
On the flip side, the trans community needs to do better about recognizing who their friends are and who their real enemies are. Just because a politician disagrees with you on 2% of trans issues, doesn’t mean they should be compared to Hitler and bashed by the community. This is what is chasing many politicians away. Better to not talk about trans issues at all for these politicians.
There is plenty of nuance in the “trans community”, with positions on transphobic dems that run the gamunt from I’ll hold my nose and vote for them to since they obviously decided they don’t need my vote I’ll not vote for them.
I can appreciate that if you don’t know anything about trans people or how the hateful right wing works you might think that there’s some concern about social-only trans women stealing scholarships from cis women due to some inherent hormonal advantage. But this simply does not happen..
It’s a hateful dog-whistle sounded by a group who wants to first ban all trans girls from any sport regardless of age or hormone, and then shut down all girls sports when no parent is willing to subject their daughter to an invasive exam.
And while I don’t mean to suggest that all such Dems are strong transphobes, if they’re not willing to fight when someone is under attack I don’t think they’re fit for the job anyway.
If this is the case, then why fight so hard against Dems that suggest feel differently, either legitimately, or to win a seat?
Honestly, I agree that there’s tons of nuance to the conversation, and neither side makes it about nuance. Which makes it hard to know what either side even wants.
My point is that I’ve heard democrats say things that seem reasonable, and saw the trans community rail against them. They might have fought for trans people in other ways, but now there’s no point.
Because bigotry and hate always get dressed up in ways that feel reasonable. Pick any hateful position of the last hundred years, and we can find both the gentleel start and the naked abuse at its end.
Like what?
The most recent Dem to make a transphobic splash is Josh Turek, nomineee for Senator from Iowa. I’ll grab a paragraph and highlight the offensive part, just in case you don’t see it.
https://www.advocate.com/politics/national/iowa-josh-turek-transgender-ad
Turek made a splash just before this with a clip that talked about Christian love for trans folk. And then he went on to misgender every trans femm athlete, diminish every cis femm athlete, and promise to deny all trans-gender affirming care for any government employee, senior citizen, disabled person, or person living in poverty.
I’ll presume that you don’t think this is “reasonable.”. But way too often people who express mildly transphobic views like “I don’t want social-only trans girls playing sports!” have equally odious prejudice that they’re just hiding.
You might be right while also being wrong that some of these issues are about bigotry and hate.
I would not have used his quote as something that was reasonable. Calling a trans woman a male is an easy way to show you’re a piece of shit.
Is there a practical difference between the Nazi who cheers as you’re put into a death train and the liberal who stands there with a frown?
Or, to have a more reasonable discussion, can you point to who you think expressed a reasonable position trans voters are unreasonably upset at?
I guess because some democrats think trans women shouldn’t play women sports, they’re basically the same as Hitler. lol.
No, they’re the Germans who stood by and did nothing.
And while most transphobic bigots are less terrible than Hitler,.I’m not sure how bad the prejudice had to be before we’re allowed to care.
I know. It’s still a very stupid comparison. “I can’t play on the team that I want to play on, I’m just like the Jewish people in the holocaust!” That’s how this reads.
I don’t disagree that there are a lot of transphobic bigots in this world, and they genuinely want trans people to be miserable. But my entire point is, you will label somebody a transphobic bigot when they are actually incredibly supportive of trans people in most ways, but just have a difference of opinion on very few issues.
Citation needed.
Citation needed
No citation needed, because obviously claiming that there’s no point fighting for the rights of people who exercise their right to dissent and express grievances is fucking batshit crazy! 🤦🏻
https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2026/09/coward-democrat-confronted-by-angry-constituents-for-opposing-trans-equality/
https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2026/09/coward-democrat-confronted-by-angry-constituents-for-opposing-trans-equality/
https://www.kqed.org/news/12101538/newsom-signs-new-protections-for-lgbtq-reproductive-rights
https://www.npr.org/2024/07/16/nx-s1-5041437/california-bans-school-rules-requiring-parents-notification-of-childs-pronoun-change
I’m sure there’s others, and I’m sure they’re not good enough for you. Which I argue is the problem.
My point is these people ARE fighting for trans rights. But when they say anything at all that goes against what the community wants, all of a sudden none of that means anything anymore.
Nothing about banning trans people from sports is reasonable…
Nobody is banning trans people from sports. That’s not even a discussion.
Yes they are. Trans athletes are banned from playing on their teams.
That’s a much more specific statement than you’re other one, and you know it. You intentionally misrepresent what is being proposed to make it sound worse.
They’re not being banned from sports. They’re being told which team they’re allowed to join. It’s significantly different.
translation: you want us to disappear from the public while your buddies vote to have us put in concentration camps to be exterminated.
thanks but no thanks.
This is the most dramatic bullshit, and exactly what I’m talking about. Nothing at all about what I said supports your comment.
oh… so you are fine with brown people and lgbtq+ people being raped and murdered while you jack off to porn… got it. sick freak that you are.
Are you literally insane? I have no idea what you’re talking about
Holy strawman argument, Batman!
The vast majority of the Democrat politicians don’t “disagree on 2%”.
They fully realize that trans rights are human rights just like their voters do.
However, they’re too scared of alienating their owner donors and the tiny sliver of Republicans who don’t automatically consider anyone with a D behind their name a demon to do a goddamn thing to stand up for those rights, in stead going along with disingenuous tropes invented by GOP spin doctors to start the “skeptical to fascist” pipeline.
And those gutless wonders AREN’T “called Hitler” and mostly not even “bashed by the community” either. They’re just told that it would be great if they’d do their job of faithfully reflecting their constituency in stead of sacrificing them for donor dollars and tiny amounts of votes that pale in comparison to the ones they could get if they grew a fucking spine and went unapologetically progressive like the people want them to
Just gonna point out that believing trans women shouldn’t play women sports is not inconsistent with that statement. You might think it is, and we can agree to disagree, but not everybody gets all the rights they think they are entitled to.
I think this is where you’re the most wrong. They aren’t “too scared”. And it isn’t all about trying to win favor from republicans. They have access to polling data that shows the opinions of both voters on the right and left.
I am willing to bet these politicians can tell that being against certain trans issues does not change which democrats vote for them. But being in favor will motivate republicans to go vote against them as opposed to staying home.
There’s also public polls that show even democrats have become less supportive of certain trans issues. So why express an opinion risks losing the election?
Fuck you.
Keep being the problem for your own cause.
I love conditional allyship cunts like you.
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I don’t think this applies. I think there’s plenty of support that is forgotten about when somebody disagrees with your opinion. Cunts like you, fuck you… keep being the problem.