Yep, on my 7th day of “getting off kratom”, I relapsed. I don’t feel bad tho. In fact, I’m much calmer than I’ve been this past week.
I know how addiction works. I know this is part of it. But the reason I relapsed is the reason I don’t feel bad.
The first few days were pure depression. No motivation or pleasure from anything. It wasn’t fun, but it was bearable. However, in the past couple of days, something in my brain switched. Instead of pure depression, my brain started alternating between depression and pure, unfiltered anxiety. And crippling anxiety at that…
I’m an anxious person. I know that. But this was honestly something different. Nearly every waking moment I was stressed af, literally shaking, trying desperately to be productive and distract myself. Being in public was torture. And when I wasn’t anxious, I was back to being depressed. Honestly, the depression was much preferable, because I didn’t feel the existential dread and all of my life problems towering over me, like I was gonna have a heart attack or faint all the time. This was by far one of the worst things I’ve ever experienced. And so I discussed it with my bf…
We struck a deal. One day of the week, I can go crazy with kratom. Otherwise I take none. That’s the deal.
Honestly? I predict I’ll feel great that one day and spend the rest of the week in withdrawal. But to be brutally honest, even that one day is worth it. Cause this anxiety…it’s hard to put into words. It’s pure hell. Always stressed, unable to relax at all, heart rate always through the roof, permanently in fight-or-flight mode. It’s really hard to describe…but it’s the worst.
Today is that day. I already had some. And right now, I feel calm. I finally don’t feel like the walls are closing in on me constantly. I feel like I can do stuff without having a panic attack. I feel…good, honestly.
And that’s it. I needed to get that out. You can judge me, call me a junkie or say that I’m just making up excuses to take drugs. All of those are probably true. But…I just know that I wanna live. I wanna make it through this winter. I wanna be somewhat “normal”. And I want the SSRI I’m taking to kick in soon, to help me with anxiety at least a bit…
Honest to god, I’ve never judged anyone for their drug use. I don’t think I’ve ever used the word “junkie” to refer to an actual person. It’s common in my country, people look down on them, insult them, call them names and say how it’s all their fault. I see them as people, cause they are. I honestly believe that they’re not at fault. I think anyone can fall into a bad habit and people shouldn’t be judged and dehumanized for that. But what do I know? I’m just a naive person who gives money to beggars on the street that ask for spare change, while all the people around me call them nasty names and insult them and dehumanize them and say that they should “just find a job”…
I’ve never judged a person for their drug use. And, even if it’s naive, I’d like to be treated the same way I treat these people.
I can’t force anyone tho ofc, so do what you want…I won’t care either way.
12 step programs tell you you have to quit cold turkey. You don’t have to quit cold turkey.
Your one day a week, don’t go crazy. Try to limit yourself. Bit less every week.
Congratulations on the progress. Looks like your strategy is going to work long-term, this is not a failure but a slippery spot on the journey that you actually handled quite well.
Woah sounds much nice, be proud of self!
And do another 20 today :3c
Don’t worry, I got my 20 ❤️
Ive been there. It sucks, hard, and im sorry youre going through this.
You should know, though, that SSRIs can exacerbate addiction. It happened to me with nitrous. Please be careful. 💜
Huh, I didn’t know that. Thanks for letting me know. I’ll be careful 🩷
Yeah, if youre anything like me it made it much harder to ignore cravings. I got dependant fast. Since youre pretty much already there, you may find it more difficult to put kratom down for good.
They banned both in my state eventually, which is really the only reason im sober now.
Wow…okay then. I’m glad you’re sober. Good on you, honestly ❤️
Thanks 💜 its better this way for sure. Keep doing what you need to, I believe in you
Thank you ❤️
How much were you taking before and how much are you taking on your one day? I know some ppl can’t taper down and prefer to just go cold turkey because there too much temptation. Im asking because if you’re doing once a week, you will be able to manage withdrawals better by tapering down thoughout the weeks, but only you know if you’re able to handle the temptation. Maybe have your bf give you the doses and only they know where its at.
I think I was on like 15g a day before for like two months. Now I don’t really count, but it’s definitely less than that. I’d say around 6-10g?
This is great advice, but…I’m not entirely sure I want to quit. Cause honestly winter (and life in general) sucks enough already and this is at least something that makes me feel like it’s all gonna be okay in the end, no matter what. I know it’s damaging as fuck, but it’s a small sense of safety and security. And I honestly think I need that…
Still, thanks for the comment 💜
Get a scale and measure so you have some idea of how much you’re taking. Tapering down is usually around 10 to 20% every 3 to 5 days. If you drop down and you feel withdrawals, stay on that dose until it goes away(it could be a week or more). Go at the pace your body tells you. it’s going to suck. Remember that a low dose of kratom is 3g. once you reach 3g, and aren’t having withdrawals, start trying to skip days. Since you don’t want to entirely quit, if your able to go without kratom for days without withdrawals that means you aren’t physically addicted to it.
I went up to 8g a dose twice a day because of anxiety. Morning, lunch and 4g an hour before bed for months . Life got better and on good days, I wouldn’t take any but felt like shit and realized it was withdrawals. Mine are chills, joint and body aches, cold and hot flashes, nausea and irritability.I tapered down over 3.5 months with relapses along the way cause life is hard. I now take 5g maybe twice a week around mid day. Its enough for the mood lift and anti anxiety. Maybe once a month I’ll take 8 on a Saturday for a good buzz. Luckily I don’t have a predisposition for addiction. My usage just sort of crept up on me. Since you’re aware of your usage, which is the first step, and the fact you’re doing something about it means you’re serious about this. That you were able to just stop for that long speaks to your strength.
If once a week works for you, please keep going. Im just telling you what worked for me and that you have options. You have ppl around you that care for you. Let them. If you need to talk, you can DM me.




