• Sims@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    16
    ·
    3 days ago

    Mericans really have a f*cked up idea of what ‘socialism’ is. All of their ‘socialist’ politicians are batshit insane Capitalists, and none of them will make US population safer from the oligarchs that pay for everything - including ‘lefty’ politicians campaigns and saleries. ‘Controlled opposition’ is the term, I think.

    • geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlOPM
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      11
      ·
      3 days ago

      Ironically the person on top is a UK journalist who writes for TheGuardian and the bottom person is from the US. Establishment journalists doing what they do best.

      • we is doomed!@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        2 days ago

        there’s a false impression of many outside the US that the D’s are some how left wing , compared to say Europe they’d be middle right.

        Some “progressive” democrats would be the equivalent of euro centrists. It’s just the MAGA GOP is so batshit insane anyone else seems sane and some cling to that as a lifeline

        • MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          2 days ago

          many outside the US

          Nobody believes that, only americans.
          And why they’re rightfully ridiculed for being dumb AF.

            • MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              7 hours ago

              nobody here believes they’re left-wing.
              Despite many right-wing inhabitants we have a wider political spectrum and at least a substantial true left.
              And everyone knows where they are.
              Unlike the navel staring (politically) illiterate US who have zero frame of reference.
              The vassal Euro media might paint a picture of the respectable ‘left’ and ‘progressive’ Dems but not many people buy that.

  • EmmiLime@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    12
    ·
    2 days ago

    Socialism is when war on brown people outside the Amerikan borders instead of inside the borders and minor treats to white people.

  • TiredTiger@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    6
    ·
    2 days ago

    I’d trot out the quote about social democracy, but they’re not even that, just fascism with a smile.

    • geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlOPM
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      10 hours ago

      She’s been pretty good in general. Usually she tries to stay on the good side of Libs and not offend them too much so they come back to humiliate themselves on her podcast but I guess even she is getting fed up.

  • zedcell@lemmygrad.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    12
    ·
    3 days ago

    Owen Jones and the Novara media left in Britain can’t help but admit their real allegiances when they see a social-democratic-at-best surge across the pond. They make up the right-most flank of the socialist movement in the UK and pretend that anyone to their left are deranged lunatics.