• cranakis@reddthat.com
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    13 minutes ago

    Oh. Screenshot of an x post. The most iron clad of sources 🙄 I hope Putin is defenestrated.

  • WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today
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    3 hours ago

    Besides the fact this is likely manipulative propaganda, Putin will accept no deal except a complete win. Anything else is likely a bullshit trap.

    • Matty RosesOPA
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      3 hours ago

      Putin will accept no deal except a complete win

      Source?

      • ShellMonkey@piefed.socdojo.com
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        2 hours ago

        Putin the invaded an independent neighbor for purposes of taking land and people. He’s persisted in this endeavor for years despite the suffering inflicted out of stubborn pride. This isn’t the toppling of a nazi facist regime but the efforts of an old man looking to have some sort of legacy other than pilfering the pockets of the nation.

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          2 hours ago

          And that’s a very strong argument for why Putin is a war criminal and a general asshole who should be hung.

          It is not, however, any sort of argument for claiming that Putin will accept no deal.

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            2 hours ago

            He went and stole Crimea, supposedly that was going to be it and everyone would gone on their way, them he came back for a other bite.

            Any deal he would make is just a temporary pause to let him regroup and come back again for another chance to push out Russia’s borders.

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              1 hour ago

              them he came back for a other bite

              Russia has been pretty clear about what they want - and it isn’t the annexation of Ukraine. It’s that Ukraine would not be able to join NATO.

              Whether you agree with that or not, it’s just not the same thing at all. So again, it seems you’re just stating as a fact something with no factual basis, because Putin is a bastard.

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                  46 seconds ago

                  That’s just a strawman, because nobody said that it was a good plan. Putin invading Ukraine was one of the biggest self-owns until the US decided to stick their dick in the meat grinder in Iran.

                  But just because it’s stupid and awful doesn’t mean that it’s Russia trying to annex Ukraine. They’ve said quite a few times that their terms for ending are the guaranteed neutrality, etc.

                  You can argue that’s a bad move for Ukraine, that Putin is a war criminal, or anything else you want. But it doesn’t mean that, as it seems was posted, Putin is determined to annex Ukraine into Russia.

                  And this is important because thousands are dying every day in this war.

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      3 hours ago

      And guy nowhere near the front lines thinks everyone not eager to fight to the last Ukranian is obviously a psyop.

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      2 hours ago

      this makes no sense considering that Ukraine is conscripting