well at least it would substantiate substantial changes …so… 🤷🏿♂️
If the americans are A-OK with the status quo allow tjem to keep doing what theyre currently doimg and let us see how much positive changes they bring about.
well at least it would substantiate substantial changes …so… 🤷🏿♂️
It wouldn’t. But even if it did, you are endorsing telling people to enter into a meat grinder.
If the americans are A-OK with the status quo allow tjem to keep doing what theyre currently doimg and let us see how much positive changes they bring about.
They aren’t A-OK, which is why they’re finally going to vote in numbers. They’re also petulantly stupid though and are only reactively voting now that we have had shit completely fall apart under Trump.
It wouldn’t. But even if it did, you are endorsing telling people to enter into a meat grinder.
“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants”
“Nobody should self-immolate for Gaza. Symbolic acts only have an effect when your enemies are humans and ours are not . Instead if youre already sure you want out, you should… ??? idf veterans in your local area.”
I did not say it would. At least at this point I’m inclined to think we’re fucked. Voting in better government at this point is a opiate we can take while the world withers on its death bed.
Maybe it would have before. Doesn’t really matter anymore though.
it does matter , it all matters. Its just that the majrity of humanity has decided that it is OK to just vote in favor of the withering away of humanity on its death bed instead of just standing up and fighting for the species’ continuuation as their ancestors did.
You might be underestimating what the US government is capable, willing, and ready to do to its own people if they legitimately threaten status quo leadership.
Okay, you are actually advocating for people to give up. This is like a cattle mindset. The elephant that no longer tries to break the twine around his neck.
Never mind the fact that, no, I’m not underestimating—do I need to remind you what your grandmothers and grandfathers bled for? Are they just better people than you?
I am American, by the way. Do not come at me with that “fuck off european” horseshit.
Okay, you are actually advocating for people to give up. This is like a cattle mindset. The elephant that no longer tries to break the twine around his neck.
This implies you think I’m a collectivist. I don’t like most of my fellow Americans as I think they’re broadly backwards morons, why would I fight to help them? There are a small portion I’ve met that are OK people but most of them suck.
Never mind the fact that, no, I’m not underestimating—do I need to remind you what your grandmothers and grandfathers bled for? Are they just better people than you?
They procreated, they’re worse people than me for that. Among other things.
I’m not a virtue ethicist though.
I am American, by the way. Do not come at me with that “fuck off european” horseshit.
Wasn’t going to. I’m not operating on “You don’t get it, its harder here.” I’m saying its functionally impossible to go from the status quo to a successful leveraged rebellion/revolution here.
If you mean that I use it to justify not trying, I’ll tell you I also don’t think I owe you or others such efforts regardless. I did not choose to exist, I was thrust into existence by my parents because my dad failed to convince my mom to abort me. Suddenly now people like yourself expect me to contribute to a project I never choose, humanity, civilization, glorious communist revolution, whatever, like I owe the world.
Forgive me if I don’t take protesting advice from a misanthropist.
It wasn’t advice. I just think its a doomed project. Go ahead and try, I’d be happy to be wrong that a good world is possible in my lifetime.
Do not get it twisted, I thought a better world was possible for most of my life. But after 2024 I just realized I had poured an incredibly wasteful amount of energy into political action that has amounted to jack shit in the greater world and no real social life for myself, just scattered connections with other people involved with politics or activism. Only this year have I engaged in more personal attempts at socializing for the sake of fun and I’ve realized I’ve missed out and wasted most of my youth. I have a little youth left and I’m dedicating it hedonistically to myself as the world burns. I now only engage with politics for angry catharsis on Lemmy.
It is desirable that all individuals within the world live good lives, even the ones I dislike. I don’t care about humanity as a collective though, if that makes sense. I’d be content to see it end as long as it ends as humanely as possible for those contained within it.
Similar happening in DC would result in a rapid spike in ICE detentions and missing person reports.
well at least it would substantiate substantial changes …so… 🤷🏿♂️
If the americans are A-OK with the status quo allow tjem to keep doing what theyre currently doimg and let us see how much positive changes they bring about.
It wouldn’t. But even if it did, you are endorsing telling people to enter into a meat grinder.
They aren’t A-OK, which is why they’re finally going to vote in numbers. They’re also petulantly stupid though and are only reactively voting now that we have had shit completely fall apart under Trump.
“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants”
“Nobody should self-immolate for Gaza. Symbolic acts only have an effect when your enemies are humans and ours are not . Instead if youre already sure you want out, you should… ??? idf veterans in your local area.”
ah yes! Voting will make a substantial permanent difference! … 🤭
I did not say it would. At least at this point I’m inclined to think we’re fucked. Voting in better government at this point is a opiate we can take while the world withers on its death bed.
Maybe it would have before. Doesn’t really matter anymore though.
it does matter , it all matters. Its just that the majrity of humanity has decided that it is OK to just vote in favor of the withering away of humanity on its death bed instead of just standing up and fighting for the species’ continuuation as their ancestors did.
The continuation of the species is not a moral good.
honestly , youre correct sadly :/
This is why you show up in numbers that are difficult to deal with.
You might be underestimating what the US government is capable, willing, and ready to do to its own people if they legitimately threaten status quo leadership.
Okay, you are actually advocating for people to give up. This is like a cattle mindset. The elephant that no longer tries to break the twine around his neck.
Never mind the fact that, no, I’m not underestimating—do I need to remind you what your grandmothers and grandfathers bled for? Are they just better people than you?
I am American, by the way. Do not come at me with that “fuck off european” horseshit.
This implies you think I’m a collectivist. I don’t like most of my fellow Americans as I think they’re broadly backwards morons, why would I fight to help them? There are a small portion I’ve met that are OK people but most of them suck.
They procreated, they’re worse people than me for that. Among other things.
I’m not a virtue ethicist though.
Wasn’t going to. I’m not operating on “You don’t get it, its harder here.” I’m saying its functionally impossible to go from the status quo to a successful leveraged rebellion/revolution here.
That sounds like a very comforting story.
Forgive me if I don’t take protesting advice from a misanthropist.
If you mean that I use it to justify not trying, I’ll tell you I also don’t think I owe you or others such efforts regardless. I did not choose to exist, I was thrust into existence by my parents because my dad failed to convince my mom to abort me. Suddenly now people like yourself expect me to contribute to a project I never choose, humanity, civilization, glorious communist revolution, whatever, like I owe the world.
It wasn’t advice. I just think its a doomed project. Go ahead and try, I’d be happy to be wrong that a good world is possible in my lifetime.
Do not get it twisted, I thought a better world was possible for most of my life. But after 2024 I just realized I had poured an incredibly wasteful amount of energy into political action that has amounted to jack shit in the greater world and no real social life for myself, just scattered connections with other people involved with politics or activism. Only this year have I engaged in more personal attempts at socializing for the sake of fun and I’ve realized I’ve missed out and wasted most of my youth. I have a little youth left and I’m dedicating it hedonistically to myself as the world burns. I now only engage with politics for angry catharsis on Lemmy.
It is desirable that all individuals within the world live good lives, even the ones I dislike. I don’t care about humanity as a collective though, if that makes sense. I’d be content to see it end as long as it ends as humanely as possible for those contained within it.