They should still vote. Not sure why that’s off the table entirely.
The meme is wrong. Instead of “: vote” it should say “: do nothing “
Nothing about this says that voting is off the table entirely…
No but it’s a common sentiment from circles on here
No, its not. Liberals just imagine it is whenever anyone points out how the Democrats suck.
Yes it is, I have had an argument several times with .ml folks who articulated that voting legitimised the system making you culpable for its shortcomings.
Very common around election season, I think the first time I heard it was actually last midterm in 2022.
Hell there are 3 comments on this post saying don’t vote. There’s no ambiguity they aren’t saying voting isn’t enough, in no uncertain terms they are saying don’t vote.
Is there an argument to be made that the ratcheting mechanisms of FPTP skew the results towards the lesser of two evils? Absolutely, especially at the presidential level.
Where that is less true is the midterms and municipal elections. We’ve seen proof that we can have real progressives like Mamdani and we need even more like Abdul El-Sayed. Progressive policy is popular and any movement needs allies.
I’m not saying don’t protest, I’m not even going to say do it peacefully but voting still has it’s place.
Please cite your examples.
No, thank you, you are very capable of reading through this very low comment post to find them. I’m not going to litigate reality with you.
Yes, but I don’t know which ones you’re referring to so in order to have a productive conversation I need to know specifically what you’re referring to.
This is not the first time I’ve seen this conversation play out like this.
Liberal: Leftists believes crazy thing!
Leftist: Can you give us examples of “crazy thing”?
Liberals: No, I cannot.
Or in the rare instance where the liberal does actually cite a source, the source isn’t saying what the liberal is saying they said.
I will continue to believing this is self-soothing delusion by liberals until they can provide some evidence for their claims.
Like, What you’re saying is so grossly untrue you don’t even want to take an opportunity to cherry pick someone saying something not broadly supported by leftists?
I think the main difference is that American police will kill people. Correct me if I’m wrong, I don’t know anything about French police but my impression of European police is that they have less guns and trained not to kill?
I’m not saying I’m right, it’s just a hunch. Rioting in the USA could put you in prison, life crippling fines, maimed or death. In ratio we imprison the most people in the world and our prisons are notriously inhumane. If you don’t go to prison then the fines and medical bills will cripple a person.
We have instances of protestors sitting on the ground in unison while getting pepper sprayed to the face or even burned with hot gas canisters. Even when our police use rubber bullets they aim for the face. I think the usa is more fascist than france and that makes it very difficult to fight back.
The only way I’d riot is if I was willing to endure our screwed up legal system. Rioters are usually labeled as violent antifa gang members and treated like enemies of the state.
If those same people were waving the red white and blue and threatening to pillage the capitol, that’s cool.
I think the main difference is that American police will kill people. Correct me if I’m wrong, I don’t know anything about French police but my impression of European police is that they have less guns and trained not to kill?
They’ve been mauling students in France, blowing off kids’ hands and taking their eyes out and shit.
But yeah, no one is dead yet. Protesters get street executions in the US.
Texas is larger than France, can we stop making these comparisons?
And that country smaller than Texas knows how to fight against their government
Tell me what protest achieve anything recently in france ? The last one that did actually end up by reform following protest is more than 20 year old. You have no cpu of what you r seeing but you think it does something.
2025, they basically led to an entire government being dissolved, and pension reform being out on hold
49.3 dickhead
Big number! How did you count so high?!
49.3 is a gouvernement tool to push law. U would know it if u were french.
BS we had riots with BLM. They are putting up mass surveillance because they know that it’s coming again. “A riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it America has failed to hear?” - MLK
BLM wasn’t far enough, because police are still killing black people.
BLM morphed into Defund and Reallocate, which Biden then came out against and increased police funding instead. The centrist Dems strangled it.
Even just defunding the police is too radical for some people.
