That guy will likely lose his job. It’s possible charges will be brought against him, although that’s less likely. That sheriff’s office will definitely be sued and they will likely have either a hefty judgement against them or a settlement. And that’s why this cop will likely lose his job. Not necessarily because they think what he did was wrong, but because he’s too much of a financial liability.
Edit: then again it is Utah, so we’ll see. But regardless she should sue. She should send the video to the civil rights lawyer too.
That guy will likely lose his job.
That guy will get promoted.
Imagine what they would have done if she was also black.
2A. Use it.
Nah, Americans are too chicken to put their life on line for betterment of society.
They will gladly commit war crimes outside America though.
They’re too cynical, I think.
Yankees do not believe society can ever get better; they do believe they’ll get free healthcare if they do war crimes.
They’ll put their lives on the line for their own self interest because that’s the only thing they believe in.
Absolutely yes with the self interest, my own journey unfortunately had to begin from there, with the realization that a better world for everyone meant a better world for me. As capitalism continues to decline, it’s only going to get easier for us to appeal to people’s self interest. We just gotta build something we can point to. Doesn’t have to be huge, just any local structure we build to make life easier. It sucks that the level of consciousness here is generally so low, but it’s also just true that people are more receptive to something when they see tangible benefit from it.
Right, but that’s when the cynicism comes in: they do not believe a better world is possible, so they just want to get their bag.
It’s why a bunch of Trots became neocons. They decided revolution was impossible.
I’m not an ACAB guy, but that man needs a few years in prison to work out his issues.
I’m a law and order guy. The problem is that cops in capitalist societies only protect and serve the rich and their property.
All Capitalist Cops Are Bastards ACCAB
The only thing that will happen in a few years is you becoming an ACAB guy.
Then you haven’t learned enough.
What brought you to not being ACAB? I’m curious what you think about not just him but the other police next to him that chose to not restrain him after he assulted her.
Speaking for myself here, but if the goal of saying “ACAB” is to point out how the police is complicit as an institution, then why the focus on cops as individuals? That ironically is a very liberal tendency when we are supposed to engage in class analysis.
It’s also way too edgy for a slogan that doesn’t even communicate what we mean. You’d almost think the slogan exists solely to alienate normies from our cause.
I think any slogan can and will be twisted no matter how edgy or verbose it is. Black Lives Matter got twisted. From the river to the sea got twisted. Turning ACAB into a 2 paragraph ordeal to try to prevent this also alienates the normies and also fails at being a slogan at that point. For what it actually seems to be trying to do: agitation- it does pretty well. We have more than enough evidence if a normie wants to argue with us about the phrase ACAB.
If police as a unit are defenders of this system, they individually are class traitors.
Apparently insisting on class analysis gets you downvoted around here. Very disappointed and you can forget about me commenting any further. I hope some of you still recognize the reactionary nature of the “ACAB” phrase. It’s not class analysis and I stand by that.
See you around.
I think you’re missing a very critical element: All Cops
Each cop, as an individual, is part of the police force as an institution. The reason the institution remains is people keep joining it and becoming the very thing that perpetuates the existence of the institution.
People who joined the police force after everything thats been happening after George Floyd are decidedly class traitors.
Doesn’t matter how noble your intentions are. If you join the SS in hopes that you’ll change it from the within, it doesn’t mean you were one of the good ones. It just means you didnt really want to oppose the Nazis, just turn them to your will
This precisely proves my point. Why the focus on cops as individuals when the point is that the police is rotten as an institution?
The reason the institution remains is not because individuals keep joining it, but because the capitalist class needs a stable social order in which dissent is suppressed.
So again, the problem is capitalism as a system of oppression, not a set of individuals that happen to do stuff for the sake of it.
So you accept that the institutions remain, and that their existence keeps capitalism safe from a revolution.
If there was an actual revolution, the cops would do everything in their power to stop it, as they’ve shown time after time.
An institution that serves capitalist interests is terrible, but you can still hold the people who perpetuate that system accountable.
If you are a cop, and decide to protect capitalism against a revolution of the masses, you are a class traitor. That part is undebatable.
Cops, by the very nature of their role under capitalism, are class traitors. Even if they dont consciously make the choice, they are the enemies of the working class. Anything that creates a hurdle in the liberation of the working class is an enemy of the working class.
I’m not sure what you mean in the first part, are you saying that the “all cops” are referring to all the individuals and not the institution? I think in this context, I thought addressing ACAB being mentioned here was relevent because no cops shown broke the rule of being complicit.
I agree that ACAB is too edgy and doesn’t communicate what we mean, of the ones I’ve seen I’m partial to “fund communities not cops.”
It’s not that I disagree that “all cops” are complicit, but the focus on them being complicit does a poor job explaining what precisely makes the police rotten as an institution when institutions are more than the people that happen to be in them.
We must engage in class analysis when it comes to these matters. “ACAB” does the opposite.
I’ve been involved with enough investigations of Bad Cops ( and there are a a LOT of them) to recognize the many other cops (and there are sadly fewer of them) who are honorable and decent enough to help bring the uniformed criminals to justice – at huge risk to their own safety and wellbeing.
