The confusion is deliberate. From the media and zelenksy too

Starshield is a separate network with additional capabilities for military use. That is what Ukraine should use for drone strikes.

Starlink is a civilian global internet service. Should a civilian network be used for war operations?

Musk is a malignant narcissist, but for once he was making sense.

Yeah but can you separate Hamas from the struggle of people for liberation from imperialist oppression?

Can you?

People still can’t imagine it yet, because “muh 911 never forget” but Islam isn’t even the driving force behind this struggle, because that too is a political struggle for liberation from imperialist oppression. It’s the religion or ideology that glues these people together as brothers and gives them the mental fortitude (or delusion) to pull this off. I say this as an atheist who isn’t especially fond of Muslims. But they rightfully want the US empire out of their region, and the natural resources like oil working for the people, not the US (like it does in Iran, or it did in Venezuela before the recent economic warfare and plundering). Of course drone strike them enough and they become more and more extreme. A thousand 911s and “interventions” and psyops visited on the middle east will lead to some bad shit. Now they found an extremist for Syria that can be bought. Worst of both worlds. US Empire and Al-Qaeda, now inseparable lol.

So while you think this is progressive politics, this actually cuts pretty close to the kerfuffle about voting democrat or third party or not at all. Which is a psyop that those people are your enemies, not the plutocrats who buy votes in bulk. But even you ultra progressive slogans are pro US empire. Not even in your wildest dreams can you imagine a just world.

It’s funny. Because pretty soon individual “Game Designers” will for the first time be able to create highly complex games using generative AI in very little time. Any game. Even games with a scole like GTA 6 could be generated. And as long as the game describes and edits enough, they will also be an individual creation. Triple AAA video games with a side of slop will become incredibly cheap to make. Much will be total garbage, but we’ll see some really cool new ideas that would never have been made before.

This enshittification we’re seeing now will only drive this process faster. Even games piracy is going to die lol.

You see a game but don’t like some aspect of it? Download someone else’s game design document for it and tweak it a bit and generate your own version of that game.

But you do need to build a new bus. You should start talking about how to stop the bus, let out the passengers, then setting fire to it.

Meanwhile: .ML BAD

Result: 4 vote to drive off the cliff but in different directions.

So call for good AI regulations, and call for end to capitalism. Do a revolution.

But in defense of the worst kind of gig economy delivery jobs? Or completely banning AI? That is wasting any political energy we have. And maybe that is the purpose of fuckai. To divide and paralyze us until it’s too late.

Yes it was a joke, sorry. The propaganda video about “downloading a car” was an incredibly stupid but massive campaign and in hindsight incredibly successful in influenced attitudes.

I don’t think any discussion is useful because I am fundamentally and radically opposed to turning intellectual ideas or works into “property” and it’s abhorrent and obscene to me. There are other and better ways to fund or reward artist’s work. Naturally I hate patents even more. They also delay market adoption for climate change solutions by 20 years. A crime against humanity! And no, that one is not a joke.

The worst thing that fuckai could lead to is help legitimize some kind of “IP tax” for use of AI models, which would as a side effect make it illegal piracy to use any open weight models. Then big tech gets to monopolize AI in the west. They can afford the tax. But we’ll forever be limited and dependent in making use of LLM models.

Downloading this comment is not authorized.

Then about the “steal” argument:

You wouldn’t download an argument, would you? Or would you? What, you’re reading this in your browser without authorization from me?? FBI, open up!!!

Obviously it’s a tool that should be used in service of humanity and responsibly. We need clear goals for a positive future, not a fervent “butlerian jihad”.

You should dream bigger. We have the technology to not need delivery drivers any more, but you want to keep them? Why? Because you think neoliberal capitalism can’t be replaced with something more just and socialist? That is my charge against this whole critique. Why the fuck do you want people working crappy delivery jobs?

All of this should be replaced by a national post office type of delivery service.

“I know they’re taking the jobs of human delivery workers and so, I have been protesting them whenever I saw them by standing in front of them and preventing them from going forward,” Marvin said.

I mean fuck. Do we want people working as delivery drones? Really? The other post in fuckai about this doesn’t even mention she’s been doing this for month which obscures why she’s been arrested.

And climate change is real you know? A small robot takes little energy compared to a full sized car.

Ideally delivery robots should be state owned and accountable to democratic processes. They are a valuable and useful innovation to solve logistic problems. A way to reshape how neighborhoods are build and planned and make them more energy efficient.

This dogmatic opposition to anything AI is really becoming more and more irrational, less and less grounded in facts and rational arguments. AI needs to be regulated. Like China currently does AI regulations best, but we can’t even imagine things like that any more because people just accept neoliberalism as the new world order and screaming is the only thing left to do apparently instead of demanding regulations or nationalization of certain AI infrastructure. Maybe this is linked to some kind of anti-democracy propaganda campaign. Divide and conquer, and don’t even let talk about regulation enter the public discussion.

supporting

No

EDIT: Just to clarify, this is a strawman. Anyone who ever uses AI is maligned and attacked and dehumanized for “supporting” evil AI companies. What I do support is Chinese open source / weight models that run on clean nuclear power. Because that is where most businesses get their tokens from today already, and it’s only going to rise.

There is a willingness to betray your fellow man and every truth and every principle of a pluralistic society just to support “your tribe” here. The fuckai tribe. They preach hate against normal people. And ultimately they are no different from MAGA or climate deniers or antivaxx because they don’t just peddle in lies they insist on them and nothing you can tell them will change their minds. Close minded people preaching hate and stupidity based on some arbitrary dogma. More and more divisions and hate mongering are being invented every year. That is how the rich and powerful control society now.

and before you know it, you confuse some loud people disliking your edgy opinions with you and your “facts” being oppressed

I agree with your other points but you’re definitely wrong on this. Facts are definitely oppressed today. Objective, verifiable historical facts are “not allowed” to be mentioned, and it has cost people their job.

And I do believe that is something that we’ve been trained to do now. Mention you just used AI with the wrong people and you’re out. A moral absolutism based on disinformation and refutable arguments. The “MAGAtization” of the left if you will. Or in case of AI it creates a deep moralistic divide with tech nerds.

It could either be accidental (engagement is good for profit) or part of a strategy (divide and conquer). But as a society we’ve lost the ability to even talk about certain very important things without walking on eggshells.

And yeah most of this is speculation.

Basically the problem is that Passkeys are designed to allow a particularly bad enshittification once everyone uses them. So it’s not about downsides of using them now, but about them being used in general and then abused.

I like the article and agree with the problem, but I’m skeptical that this works as a strategy to fix the problem. First off, individual responsibility or boycott doesn’t really work. Most people will just use what their phone gives. Second if the corporations do want to do this, they could implement it separately in their apps, like twitter or google chrome requiring quasi-attested “homebrew” passkeys stored in cryptoprocessors. Ultimately I do not think we have any power to prevent them from doing that.

The time of democracy and pluralism is over. We’re already seeing the author of the article being maligned and personally attacked for talking about AI - how dares he? On all fronts we have lost the culture war and lost power, economic power, information power like access to truth.

I mean even if it did train on the proprietary code it can’t memorize it. It has to “learn what code like this looks like”. It has to figure out what the function is. That can I think only be called verbal intelligence. The ability to understand what is meant behind words. Not very good yet but having to pretend it’s not there is just denialism. Denialism exactly like climate change denial. And of course some AI fans do have AI psychosis, different side of the same coin.

The whole dancing around LLMs clearly being able to reason (which can be shown in scientific experiments) and therefor clearly having some sort intelligence is so stupid. Because meanwhile 90% of lemmy users are too brainwashed to accept basic reality any more.

Because you know, this isn’t just funny. There are real danger as the technology progresses. But it’s politically incorrect and gets you massive downvotes in the wrong community if you talk about those dangers. You can’t talk about facts any more.

It’s not just about the historical facts about e.g. the coup in Ukraine that you can’t talk objectively about any more. Facts in general become anathema. Only the feeling of correctness and manufacturing social consent matters. Collectively we are becoming more and more stupid animals. We are trained to become less sentient or sapient. Less able to perceive and react to reality and more and more act on trained and instinctual impulses. But I see little difference between the MAGA fascists and like 90% of lemmy users now. And if you don’t want to offend (or get fired) you have to mask and that seemed funny in your post.

Anyway, sorry just rambling lol

Disclaimer I’m very light on ML theory so may the community forgive me and the mods have mercy on me:

One perspective on a “liberal democracy” within which you would have democratic socialism might be: There are no ideological constraints except the chains of capitalism. Like that is the reality of western democracies today I think.

They might hold their nose and bla bla about far right and religious this or bad communist but everything goes. Nobody can censor anything because liberal values.

This means that fundamentally, those with the most power OUTSIDE of the state have the most power over the democracy. And that is the capitalists.

And the amount of influence capitalists or plutocrats or capitalist institutions or corporations have is vastly understated as to constitute a “big lie” a la Goebbels. Western democracies are ruled by an amoral “nonsentient amalgamated intelligence”. A million individuals all greeding for their own piece of the pie be it wealth or power or just making it to the next paycheck. The true form of the “chains of capitalism” is a slime mold growing inside our heads. No other ideology that actually exerts power is allowed.

So how are you going to implement democratic socialism? You can’t!

Nothing stops those with the most power from undermining you, fomenting sentiment, pushing propaganda and influencing the next election which will invariably be some neoconservative anti-commie bullshit.

Please stop with the acts of war or terrorism BS. The article also mentions “in-store pricing powered by electronic shelf labels” so lets not ignore this is about multi-billion companies trying to suck every penny out of our pocket. If these companies design and manufacture and buy stupid hardware that is susceptible to such hacking, they really deserve it. I mean they really do.

Second, this is a good thing. Systems will be hardened now. You think there would be any other fucking way they would upgrade their security unless something like this happens? Beatings will continue until security improves. This is why even chaotic hackers that cause damage and inconvenience are ultimately a positive force on our IT infrastructure. Think of it as an ecosystem and evolutionary pressure. Free marketplace of security models.

Oh it learned enough from code that it has developed some basic, and hear me out of this, artificial verbal intelligence. I know I know, not just pattern matching, but actual artificial intelligence at a low level.

Please don’t downvote me (sorry don’t remember if this is fuckai or not) but I’m just saying it’s one possible explanation to this phenomenon you describe.

Germany still prosecutes people who guarded their concentration camps. That’s what should happen to every single member of ICE. They knew.