ClathrateG [none/use name]

Like a bottle of Châteauneuf-du-Pape, I’m fine like wine when I start to rap

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  • I admitted I was wrong in calling the entity enacting a systematic campaign of reducing birth rates among Ethiopian jews as sterilisation, you’re correct it wasn’t a campaign of sterilisation, rather it was a campaign to lower the birth rates of a non-white ethnic group

    I think we may actually be agreed on the point that in addition to being Jewish supremacist the entity is also extremely racist towards non-whites, to varying degrees depending on their religion(i.e that non-jews are treated far worse than Jews, but that if not as severely their is still a significant difference between how black Jews are treated in comparison to whites)
    But your point is we should ignore the racism to focus purely on it’s religious discrimination?\ I can see why’d people think that keeping the criticism simple is necessary but imo within a community such as this we can be more granular and detailed in our critiques and opposition


  • to define Zionism by one time that a small number Jews were mistreated by a Jewish ethnostate is so obviously ridiculous

    Can you expand on this further, why do think Jewish supremacy precludes white supremacy?

    Why do you believe that a state can only be inherently bigoted in a single way: what is your reasoning behind believing that the inter-religious discrimination enacted by the state that leads to Jews being favoured over non-jews mean that it can’t also enact an intra-jewish ethnic hierarchy?
    How do you dismiss that black Jews(to provide an example comparison that may prove illustrative: in the case of 19th century Haiti, Christians were favoured by the state over practitioners of animism and syncretic faiths like vodou, and also within the grouping of favoured christians: Creole Christians were favoured over black christians) are treated worse by the entity than white jews?


  • You can look it up. Other non-european Jews in Israel benefit greatly from the very prevalent Jewish ethnosupremacy

    Yes they do I didn’t suggest otherwise, it is possible for a group to benefit from the jewish supremacy but still suffer from racial discrimination compared to the dominant ethnicity: Black Jews are treated far better than the indigenous Muslim Arab population but are still a second class compared to european jews, thus israel is both Jewish supremacist in addition to being white supremacist, they are not mutually exclusive, both are present, even if jewish supremacy takes precedence over white supremacy

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-21621388

    In December, an Israeli TV documentary produced evidence about the use of a drug called Depo-Provera.

    It suggested immigrants were given shots without their full consent.

    In 1996, for example, the Israeli authorities admitted they had secretly disposed of blood donations given by Ethiopian Israelis because of fears about HIV/Aids.

    Questions are being asked whether the use of contraceptive shots could have contributed to the 50% drop in the birth rate among Ethiopian immigrant women in the past decade.

    Depo-Provera shots, which are given every three months, are not a standard method of birth control in Israel.

    I’ll concede that it wasn’t sterisation but rather a form of long lasting but ultimately temporary contraception( but if the shots were given for the duration of woman’s fertility then it is still effectively sterilisation), my main point in bringing this up is that the Israel took steps to lower the birth rate of black Jews without their informed consent, something it has not inflicted on white jewish immigrants

    Zionism is Jewish supremacist, and trying to erase that is genocide denialism.

    Yes, but to erase the racism of the entity is denial of the ethnic cleansing it engages in

    In a purely ideological sense it’s conceivable to theorise a form of zionism that purely discriminates on the basis of religion and is ‘colour-blind’ on ethnicity, however an attempt to implement these hypothesized forms of zionism the discrimination would include discrimination against non-white jews.
    In the real world zionism discriminates on both hence it is both White and Jewish supremacist