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  • In general, I agree, service frequency & reliability are critical, but I just want to push back on the idea you would have been “better off driving”. For starters, you would have lost the reading or chatting time on the train to having to work driving, plus the extra time and money on parking, fuel and maybe tolls. Maybe your time is so valuable that you have no slack or downtime otherwise in your day and doing that work is worth it to save some, but often it’s just a case of dealing with the unpredictability and having spare time near a station instead of elsewhere. And of course, all it takes is another driver to crash ahead of you and you can be sat there hours while they rescue the victims, recover the vehicle and clear the queues.

    It’s still better if the train service is reliable and has enough capacity, of course!












  • Besides your point, not mine, plus the OSM history suggests Mariahilferstrasse was only a secondary highway, not a primary like CHS was, so I’d still love to see real data about Camden’s pedestrianisation showing that the motor traffic has really disappeared without also making cycle traffic disappear, and not blindly trust it’s possible to extrapolate from demotorisation of a less important highway in a smaller city.


  • Mariahilferstrasse seems different because it seems to still allow cycling, unlike Camden High Street, and also the nearest primary cycle route on Siebensterngasse is not an obvious alternative driving route in either direction, unlike Pancras Road / Royal College Street which seems a reasonably obvious route for anyone driving north from the Somers Town or Bloomsbury bits of Euston Road or points south and east of there.

    It may well be that there’s been no measurable effect so no mitigation needed, but it would be good to see the data for Camden if anyone knows it, not just extrapolations from different situations and predictions.