I disagree they’re taking more power, what changes is the expression of power. During the good times, there’s no need to repress in overt fashion because the working class buys into the narrative. So, some freedoms can be allowed because workers are docile. When there is an economic crisis, the worker unrest starts, and that requires more direct measures to put down. However, the power was always with the ruling class.
Other systems such as feudalism share aspects with capitalism. There’s no contradiction here. One system evolved out of the other, and necessarily has shared characteristics as a result. Just like socialism retains aspects of capitalist society as well.
Meanwhile, arguing that these points will somehow be co-opted by the right-wing is a stretch.
I don’t really see anything anti-Marxist in explaining how the fascist narrative works. Madeline Pendleton clearly has a firm understanding of Marxism, as is clearly evident from her other videos where she talks about theory. The goal of this video was to focus on the narrative that fascists use.
Other systems such as feudalism share aspects with capitalism.
I think you misread, this was just an illustration of the “taking power”, “One system evolved out of the other” does not answer, nor contradict my point, I know and agree with the evolution of societies from slavery to feudalism to capitalism to communism.
Meanwhile, arguing that these points will somehow be co-opted by the right-wing is a stretch.
I feel like you might be thinking about USA, because some European countries it is not a stretch I don’t want to DOX myself too much but the “antifa is the real fascism” is a thing. I don’t mind you arguing about that because this is not even a debate in those places. I guess the USA right-wing didn’t use that rhetoric.
I don’t really see anything anti-Marxist in explaining how the fascist narrative work
It is not anti-Marxist to explain how fascist narrative works, “how” it is done here is not following the core principles of the dialectical materialism as I tried to explain with points and sentences. Maybe my English is too broken so I’ll borrow the 2nd sentence of wikipedia “it proposes that the world is material, that all phenomena are the result of matter in motion” (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectical_materialism), this is just an introduction but the “motion” part was not a detail but fundamental.
This video reminds me of the points of Umberto Eco (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ur-Fascism) and from where I come from there may be still some debates but most of the Marxists wouldn’t use that definition. I think this 1995 publication didn’t help, quiet the opposite, and we are getting out of it.
What I’m saying is that the video doesn’t discuss the mechanics of fascism, but rather how fascists see themselves and the narrative they use to promote their ideology. Understanding that is just as valuable as understanding how fascism function in technical terms.
I disagree they’re taking more power, what changes is the expression of power. During the good times, there’s no need to repress in overt fashion because the working class buys into the narrative. So, some freedoms can be allowed because workers are docile. When there is an economic crisis, the worker unrest starts, and that requires more direct measures to put down. However, the power was always with the ruling class.
Other systems such as feudalism share aspects with capitalism. There’s no contradiction here. One system evolved out of the other, and necessarily has shared characteristics as a result. Just like socialism retains aspects of capitalist society as well.
Meanwhile, arguing that these points will somehow be co-opted by the right-wing is a stretch.
I don’t really see anything anti-Marxist in explaining how the fascist narrative works. Madeline Pendleton clearly has a firm understanding of Marxism, as is clearly evident from her other videos where she talks about theory. The goal of this video was to focus on the narrative that fascists use.
I think you misread, this was just an illustration of the “taking power”, “One system evolved out of the other” does not answer, nor contradict my point, I know and agree with the evolution of societies from slavery to feudalism to capitalism to communism.
I feel like you might be thinking about USA, because some European countries it is not a stretch I don’t want to DOX myself too much but the “antifa is the real fascism” is a thing. I don’t mind you arguing about that because this is not even a debate in those places. I guess the USA right-wing didn’t use that rhetoric.
It is not anti-Marxist to explain how fascist narrative works, “how” it is done here is not following the core principles of the dialectical materialism as I tried to explain with points and sentences. Maybe my English is too broken so I’ll borrow the 2nd sentence of wikipedia “it proposes that the world is material, that all phenomena are the result of matter in motion” (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectical_materialism), this is just an introduction but the “motion” part was not a detail but fundamental.
This video reminds me of the points of Umberto Eco (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ur-Fascism) and from where I come from there may be still some debates but most of the Marxists wouldn’t use that definition. I think this 1995 publication didn’t help, quiet the opposite, and we are getting out of it.
My point was that the right will always smear the left. What people on the left say is not going to change that one way or the other.
And I’m quite familiar with how dialectical materialism works having written a whole essay on the subject, which I dare say is a better intro than the wikipedia entry https://dialecticaldispatches.substack.com/p/the-toolset-of-reality
What I’m saying is that the video doesn’t discuss the mechanics of fascism, but rather how fascists see themselves and the narrative they use to promote their ideology. Understanding that is just as valuable as understanding how fascism function in technical terms.