As an owner of multiple galaxy folds, I really wish people that don’t see the use case would stop treating their opinion as fact.
This is a phone that folds open into a tablet.
Not “basically a tablet”
The apple one is nothing special, its essentially the same as the wide fold 8. (The one i currently use)
I have a tablet. I don’t use it. Because it is heavy, it doesn’t fit in my pocket and i can’t make phone calls on it. All the things that make a phone different to a tablet are present on my “basically a tablet”
I have a specific use case for this phone. It suits me down to the ground. I don’t pretend this phone is for everyone, but i also don’t pretend it is for no one like you have done here.
Sorry to direct this at you, but it really does trigger me when i see this type of comment.
If you don’t see it working for you then just don’t buy one. No need to throw shade because you personally don’t like them.
So i cant throw shade at a company that supports mass consumerism and extreme unaffordable prices, with a product that has basically been the same since the iphone 13-15 but with Ai and a bigger screen?
There has to be more feaaible options than this, especially one that shouls make sense. What is the different than thw iphone 17/18 or a cyberdeck that is the same size but not evem a third of the cost of this phone?
Im not treating anything im saying as fact, just it makes no sense on the price point and mindset of where these phones are going(if you want to call it a phone at this point) . All these phablets do is just encourage consumerism and act less like a phone, i just have a problem with the company and the product, not whoever wants to use it.
I didnt say you can’t throw shade at apple. I don’t buy apple products either. But you weren’t arguing that apple were a bad company. You were arguing that folding phones are basically tablets. Which they are not.
If you want to talk about how shit apple is. I am not your opponent.
Personally, I want the Duo because trying to ssh into a server in Termius on my iPhone with my aging eyes is rough. This will give me a tablet’s worth of terminal screen that I can bring with me in my pocket. And if work is paying for it, why the hell not.
There are legitimate use cases. Haters just want to feel superior.
i used to be an iphone user before they went to complete bs on their phones, along with the shady politics. Looks like im triggering the fanboys with them defending a product that basically repeats every year and will break in about 1-2 years, huh?.
I did exactly this earlier when I was demoing my z fold to my nephew earlier today, it’s really nice to also have extra screen real estate for the extra modifier keys.
I do believe there is a target audience for folding phones but if you had already "multiple of them, you don’t seem to require a device that can truly last (+5 years).
I had a fold 3 for 3 years. Swapped to a fold 6 and gave my fold 3 to my wife who had it for a further 2 years before she traded it in for a second hand fold 5. She is an official convert thanks to that fold 3.
I used the fold 6 for a year before they released the 7 which was super slim and had a wider front screen which was my only real issue with the fold series.
Since my contract has “switch up” i can swap my phone every year if i want. So when the wide 8 came out i swapped the 7 for the 8. I suspect i will keep this one for a while as its the form factor i have wanted since the 3.
The fact that i have had multiple was a testament to how useful i find the phone. It was not a statement about their durability. As long as you don’t treat your phone like shit, it will last as long as you need it to.
I see people with iphones with cracked from and backs CONSTANTLY. I guarantee that is not a person who should be carrying around a £1000 to £2000 information rectangle. The inner screen of the fold and flip are not to blame for careless people.
There are plenty of fold 3s out in the wild, even fold 2s which were not nearly as durable.
In fairness i replaced the inner screen protector once as it began to peel off in the middle. But yeah, it lasted a long time. But honestly you just need to not throw it around and it is fine.
I don’t. I agree with them that for the price of the folding iPhone, I already have an iPhone, iPad, and Apple Watch, and can take calls on all three of them. I dont care if my iPad is heavy because I have two more portable devices
You’re almost the perfect use case lol. The whole point of the fold is for people that have or want both a phone and a tablet, but only want to carry one device.
I don’t currently have an iPad. My wife does and I end up using it a lot. I want an iPad mini for the times that I want just a bit bigger screen, but I’ve held off because I don’t want another device.
So I’ve got a duo on order. 90% of the time I’ll probably have it closed. The other 10% of the time it’ll serve the use that I use my wife’s iPad for but will have my setup instead of her layout that I’m not used to lol.
I do kinda agree, I could see myself getting some use out of a fold style phone, but I am definitely not the target audience.
But I could see a lot of smaller benefits for a flip style phone. Having a smaller square even if it is chonk, would be easier to store while cycling or running, or even just putting it in my backpack pockets. Would I be willing to fork over that much money… Probably not, I would most likely get something like a fair phone
It’s not using it for directions, it is tucking it away in small pockets. I have a cycle computer while cycling, so putting my phone neatly and securely in a zipped pocket would be nice. But can’t do that currently as the phone is too tall (pockets too small?)
Similar with running, doesn’t fit is a zipped pocket all that well cause too tall, so have to throw it in a “food” pocket instead.
That’s simply absurd. I’m sorry but you’re just inventing needs now. Get an arm band. They’re specifically made for phones. And foldables are generally bigger than regular phones with a few exceptions, and even then they’re super thick, not really saving you anything.
Did you miss the point where I said it was small benefits of having a flip style phone? Thickness is typically not the issue, but just how tall phones are is starting to get troublesome in small annoyance ways.
Get an arm band? I don’t really want to be running 30km with an arm band thanks. Or cycling 300km with one either. The small bits of comfort are kinda important(not $1200 worth it though).
Because having the smaller profile in your pocket, but being able to fold out to watch content on a higher screen is completely different than zooming….
Sure you can zoom in on a YouTube video, but why? You’re just getting a nose or something instead of the video.
The fold is for when you do most of your stuff on the small screen, but want the big screen for certain things and don’t want two devices to do it. Which is the perfectly valid use case.
Taking a modern large screen phone on a run can be a pain in the ass. Why get a small phone and a small tablet when you can have a small phone that unfolds into a small tablet when you want it to?
A tablet can’t fit into your pocket. I’ve been using folds for the past 6 years and I’ve been very happy and can’t go back. Never had one break its screen either. 2000 USD being an insane price for one on the other hand, I can agree with.
The other interesting part to me is that most iPhone users have gotten used to using faceid. I know not everyone likes using it but it is the standard use for iPhone users. The Duo doesn’t have face ID, and switches you back to having to use touch ID on a side button like on an iPad. (I assume because they couldn’t figure out a standardized position that would work well when you are rotating/folding/unfolding whatever to that could consistently work well.
Gotten used may not necessarily mean they like it though. I wouldn’t be surprised if this is a plus point for them. Heck, for me, I find the Z Fold’s power button fingerprint sensor a plus point compared to the in-screen sensors on the regular phones.
It’s weird, I saw the demos and you don’t even get significantly more info on the screen because you go from awkwardly-shaped profile view to landscape view so everything just gets stretched to the side.
Not sure how it is where you live but the Samsung Fold 8 Ultra where I live are 300 SGD cheaper for the base model compared to the Duo. And that’s from Samsung directly, if I get it from a reseller, I can get it for almost 1000 SGD cheaper.
Yup. I think the old Pixel Tablet has a few years of Graphene support left. That’s seems like a good option at a much better price point, but check me on those EoL dates.
This is basically a tablet people, get a dam tablet, especially one that isnt 2000 USS. 😑
As an owner of multiple galaxy folds, I really wish people that don’t see the use case would stop treating their opinion as fact.
This is a phone that folds open into a tablet.
Not “basically a tablet”
The apple one is nothing special, its essentially the same as the wide fold 8. (The one i currently use)
I have a tablet. I don’t use it. Because it is heavy, it doesn’t fit in my pocket and i can’t make phone calls on it. All the things that make a phone different to a tablet are present on my “basically a tablet”
I have a specific use case for this phone. It suits me down to the ground. I don’t pretend this phone is for everyone, but i also don’t pretend it is for no one like you have done here.
Sorry to direct this at you, but it really does trigger me when i see this type of comment.
If you don’t see it working for you then just don’t buy one. No need to throw shade because you personally don’t like them.
So i cant throw shade at a company that supports mass consumerism and extreme unaffordable prices, with a product that has basically been the same since the iphone 13-15 but with Ai and a bigger screen?
There has to be more feaaible options than this, especially one that shouls make sense. What is the different than thw iphone 17/18 or a cyberdeck that is the same size but not evem a third of the cost of this phone?
Im not treating anything im saying as fact, just it makes no sense on the price point and mindset of where these phones are going(if you want to call it a phone at this point) . All these phablets do is just encourage consumerism and act less like a phone, i just have a problem with the company and the product, not whoever wants to use it.
You want to use it,cool, thats on you.
I didnt say you can’t throw shade at apple. I don’t buy apple products either. But you weren’t arguing that apple were a bad company. You were arguing that folding phones are basically tablets. Which they are not.
If you want to talk about how shit apple is. I am not your opponent.
Personally, I want the Duo because trying to ssh into a server in Termius on my iPhone with my aging eyes is rough. This will give me a tablet’s worth of terminal screen that I can bring with me in my pocket. And if work is paying for it, why the hell not.
There are legitimate use cases. Haters just want to feel superior.
i used to be an iphone user before they went to complete bs on their phones, along with the shady politics. Looks like im triggering the fanboys with them defending a product that basically repeats every year and will break in about 1-2 years, huh?.
I did exactly this earlier when I was demoing my z fold to my nephew earlier today, it’s really nice to also have extra screen real estate for the extra modifier keys.
.ssh/config and tab autocomplete are how I manage. I do the squinting once if I can help it
I do believe there is a target audience for folding phones but if you had already "multiple of them, you don’t seem to require a device that can truly last (+5 years).
I had a fold 3 for 3 years. Swapped to a fold 6 and gave my fold 3 to my wife who had it for a further 2 years before she traded it in for a second hand fold 5. She is an official convert thanks to that fold 3.
I used the fold 6 for a year before they released the 7 which was super slim and had a wider front screen which was my only real issue with the fold series.
Since my contract has “switch up” i can swap my phone every year if i want. So when the wide 8 came out i swapped the 7 for the 8. I suspect i will keep this one for a while as its the form factor i have wanted since the 3.
The fact that i have had multiple was a testament to how useful i find the phone. It was not a statement about their durability. As long as you don’t treat your phone like shit, it will last as long as you need it to.
I see people with iphones with cracked from and backs CONSTANTLY. I guarantee that is not a person who should be carrying around a £1000 to £2000 information rectangle. The inner screen of the fold and flip are not to blame for careless people.
There are plenty of fold 3s out in the wild, even fold 2s which were not nearly as durable.
5 years for a fold3? I am impressed.
In fairness i replaced the inner screen protector once as it began to peel off in the middle. But yeah, it lasted a long time. But honestly you just need to not throw it around and it is fine.
I’m happy you fit the niche.
I don’t. I agree with them that for the price of the folding iPhone, I already have an iPhone, iPad, and Apple Watch, and can take calls on all three of them. I dont care if my iPad is heavy because I have two more portable devices
You’re almost the perfect use case lol. The whole point of the fold is for people that have or want both a phone and a tablet, but only want to carry one device.
I don’t currently have an iPad. My wife does and I end up using it a lot. I want an iPad mini for the times that I want just a bit bigger screen, but I’ve held off because I don’t want another device.
So I’ve got a duo on order. 90% of the time I’ll probably have it closed. The other 10% of the time it’ll serve the use that I use my wife’s iPad for but will have my setup instead of her layout that I’m not used to lol.
I never really understood the appeal of these.
They are nifty tech but new black rectangle that does the same shit as the last black rectangle has long ago stopped interesting me.
I now just get medium priced black rectangle every four or five years and ignore everything in between.
Along with the increased prices, its mind boggling to me that people want to pay rent prices for a stupid phone that aint gonna last 2 years.
Thats how a phone should be, hence i went to android cause of that. Tired of Apples BS
I’m with you in spirit, but phone can last longer than two years, especially if you change the battery.
I lost my USB-C port a long time ago, so I got a contact charger and syncthing…
These phones though dont have batteries you can change out, unless you break the phone just to open it.
I mean, ok? The flagship androids cost the same or more and have less support lol. They literally don’t last nearly as long as iPhones.
Oh im definitely not forgettung android and how crazy they have gone too with their phones.
Just only difference between them and apple ,at least i can tinker with an older device or get something degoogled.
I do kinda agree, I could see myself getting some use out of a fold style phone, but I am definitely not the target audience.
But I could see a lot of smaller benefits for a flip style phone. Having a smaller square even if it is chonk, would be easier to store while cycling or running, or even just putting it in my backpack pockets. Would I be willing to fork over that much money… Probably not, I would most likely get something like a fair phone
But why tho? A modern phone will be more than enough to cycle or run with. A bigger map is of no use when zoom exists.
It’s not using it for directions, it is tucking it away in small pockets. I have a cycle computer while cycling, so putting my phone neatly and securely in a zipped pocket would be nice. But can’t do that currently as the phone is too tall (pockets too small?)
Similar with running, doesn’t fit is a zipped pocket all that well cause too tall, so have to throw it in a “food” pocket instead.
That’s simply absurd. I’m sorry but you’re just inventing needs now. Get an arm band. They’re specifically made for phones. And foldables are generally bigger than regular phones with a few exceptions, and even then they’re super thick, not really saving you anything.
Did you miss the point where I said it was small benefits of having a flip style phone? Thickness is typically not the issue, but just how tall phones are is starting to get troublesome in small annoyance ways.
Get an arm band? I don’t really want to be running 30km with an arm band thanks. Or cycling 300km with one either. The small bits of comfort are kinda important(not $1200 worth it though).
Because having the smaller profile in your pocket, but being able to fold out to watch content on a higher screen is completely different than zooming….
Sure you can zoom in on a YouTube video, but why? You’re just getting a nose or something instead of the video.
The fold is for when you do most of your stuff on the small screen, but want the big screen for certain things and don’t want two devices to do it. Which is the perfectly valid use case.
Taking a modern large screen phone on a run can be a pain in the ass. Why get a small phone and a small tablet when you can have a small phone that unfolds into a small tablet when you want it to?
A tablet can’t fit into your pocket. I’ve been using folds for the past 6 years and I’ve been very happy and can’t go back. Never had one break its screen either. 2000 USD being an insane price for one on the other hand, I can agree with.
The other interesting part to me is that most iPhone users have gotten used to using faceid. I know not everyone likes using it but it is the standard use for iPhone users. The Duo doesn’t have face ID, and switches you back to having to use touch ID on a side button like on an iPad. (I assume because they couldn’t figure out a standardized position that would work well when you are rotating/folding/unfolding whatever to that could consistently work well.
Gotten used may not necessarily mean they like it though. I wouldn’t be surprised if this is a plus point for them. Heck, for me, I find the Z Fold’s power button fingerprint sensor a plus point compared to the in-screen sensors on the regular phones.
It’s weird, I saw the demos and you don’t even get significantly more info on the screen because you go from awkwardly-shaped profile view to landscape view so everything just gets stretched to the side.
It must be spectacular because it has a stamped logo of an Apple.
It’s literally the same price as all the other folding phones. Being Apple is irrelevant.
Sure, you can say $2000 is too much for a phone. I’m inclined to agree. But this is clearly the market price for a foldable phone across the board.
Not sure how it is where you live but the Samsung Fold 8 Ultra where I live are 300 SGD cheaper for the base model compared to the Duo. And that’s from Samsung directly, if I get it from a reseller, I can get it for almost 1000 SGD cheaper.
Yup. I think the old Pixel Tablet has a few years of Graphene support left. That’s seems like a good option at a much better price point, but check me on those EoL dates.