Meanwhile on reddit.
Honestly kind of sounds like lemmy.world mods like Jordan Lund tho…
To get a project featured on the subreddit, developers now need to show it has been actively maintained for at least a year, has an established community, and has at least three contributors, give or take. Student projects such as note-taking apps and PDF viewers aren’t welcome either, and developers can no longer use the subreddit to find people willing to help maintain their software.
That creates a chicken-and-egg problem for independent developers, who apparently need an established community before they can use an open source forum to find one. Even projects with no AI involvement could fall foul of the rules. One Reddit user pointed out that their nine-year-old project, which has more than 300 GitHub stars and dozens of resolved issues, would no longer qualify because they’re its sole contributor.
The moderator also imposed a minimum Reddit account age of one year and requires significant prior contributions. Anyone who attempts to post and then contacts the moderators seeking an exception risks being permanently banned and muted.
As someone in a community impacted by the deluge of AI slop projects…good. These are good policies, the overwhelming amount of crap being churned out makes sifting through it as a human, untenable; the only sane solution is to restrict it and ban the peddlers.
this has nothing to do with the fediverse
It has everything to do with the Fediverse as this is precisely the kind of problem the Fediverse was designed to minimize and grapple with, so how that problem is evolving in the corporate social media world is directly relevant to the Fediverse even though it is not part of it, the failure of corporate social media to grapple with these problems elucidates why and how we are trying to solve those problems on the Fediverse best in some ways.
For example we can compare the problematic behavior of Lemmy.World mods on the politics and world news communities to the problematic behavior of Reddit in this case and see a clear resonance that makes it easier to address the forms of these problems on the Fediverse more confidently.
Yeah, it is not like the flood of ai DDoS attacks will stop .
Stop talking about Reddit!
Wah wah if you dont like it block it.
Reddit it’s too big for its own good. I imagine that subreddit must be unmanageable, like any minimally popular subreddit.
The issue is less the size and more that it is a centralized platform with no possibility for communities to effectively “go somewhere else” if they are having a bad experience on one platform/website. The power dynamics are disgusting and no amount of fiddling with the rules and making them more endlessly hypocritical and byzantine or shuffling in and out new moderators will fix it.
That is only partially true.
For one, they could make a new sub, which people have been doing for like a decade, long before Lemmy was even thought of. Most of us know of at least one sub that got its start this way, before we had ever heard of it (or rather, we used to, before we collectively chose to forget all that!:-P).
For another, people can migrate off of Reddit entirely. There are multiple options to choose from, the top ones being Discord, Bluesky, even X, and as always Facebook, Insta, Tiktok, YouTube, etc.
All of these are exceedingly poor choices for various reasons or another… however, if history shows us anything, it is that people will do ANYTHING other than come to the Fediverse. Just read pretty much any Reddit post discussing Lemmy and you will see words like “leftist trolls”, “extremists”, “toxic AF”, etc.
Also remember that even Reddit offers more freedoms in some ways than Lemmy. Examples include the ability to ask questions of the mod team via modmail without having to individually DM each (most often inactivated) account in turn, the ability to continue conversations begun on a post that is later removed by a mod from the sub’s feed (Lemmy instead gaslights you, pretending that it never existed and you are crazy for attempting to return to it), and the ability to not continually receive notifications via DMs or comment replies from toxic trolls (ahem hexbear ahem lemmygrad ahem, cough), without having to individually user-block each account one by one by one by one by one by one by one by one by one by one, and truly almost infinitely since they keep spinning up alts all the time.
If we offered a VIABLE alternative, then perhaps they would come here. But when faced with man vs. bear, they chose The Man (we here are the bear, I am sadly coming to realize).
Maybe, but it is equally possible that people will be forced to learn that their unwillingness to care about this stuff because it is “wayyyy too complicated” is existentially not sustainable…
People picking Bluesky over Mastodon when Mastodon already existed and was easily functional enough for people to choose as an alternative is a perfect example of what you are saying but also… Bluesky is a vaporwave brand that will eventually strangle itself into obscurity in the pursuit of monetization and Mastodon will keep chugging along… so people will have many many chances to learn why ActivityPub and the Fediverse are the future, and those learning opportunities will only start coming quicker and quicker.
Though whether people choose to learn or not, we’ll see. What I am saying is that our collective haughty attitude where we know that we are superior (which is somewhat true, except for all the ways that we willfully choose to ignore where it is not) is not helping.
If we want others to come here - and there’s a good most likely >50% here who do NOT want that, mind you! - then we would have to entice them to do so, which practically speaking I simply do not see happening. e.g. if Lemmy’s instance block tool would actually function to “block” all the content from an “instance” then yeah that would be just great. Or if Dessalines would allow donations to the codebase separately from the maintenance costs of specifically Lemmy.ml. Or if Rimu would listen to community feedback instead of… whatever the opposite of that is. And so on, ad nauseum.
YOU may want people to come here. However, keeping in mind that they would primarily be right-wing or at most centrist Christians from the USA, or centrist Muslims from the UK, etc., note that others here are the polar opposite of welcoming to such an influx of users.
So they stay there. Or go to Bluesky. It’s their choice. Again, if we want to make coming here more of a viable option, then we would need to put in some actual effort into making this a more receptive place to be for them.
Lol good enough
