Members of the Democratic Socialists of America are thinking seriously about a national presidential campaign for Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in 2028 that would reach millions of working people and have the potential to transform American politics.
What’s crazy is there’s 31 different flavors of communism that doesn’t require unquestioning loyalty to a supreme leader, and tankies can all just easily choose to support any of them.
Keep every last good thing they claim to support, and just ditch the roving gangs of murderers and literal tanks crushing anyone that doesn’t 100% agree with them…
But they won’t, because the lust for violence is why they’re tankies in the first place, instead of any of the rational flavors of communism. They’re not tankies for the communism, it’s just a path to acceptable violence against an out group
They’re not tankies for the communism, it’s just a path to acceptable violence against an out group
Ironically this can be applied to a lot of your common folk fash supporters too. Some people just want to watch the world burn and don’t really care what path they have to take to get us there.
There’s less than 1,000 billionaires in america, and they control over $8,100,000,000,000…
They don’t need to be murdered though, you don’t get to be a billionaire without commiting enough crimes to be jailed for life. It’s just our legal system is a joke and they have more resources than the government.
Seize their resources
Prosecute them and give them a court appointed attorney
Nothing, we literally have to do nothing after that.
No roving gangs, no guillotines, throw them in the same ocean they throw us.
Completely ethical and moral, and that shit matters. Because how you start a new society influences it the entire time it exists.
Once their wealth is gone, all the underlings will be scrambling to turn states evidence, no one hates billionaires more than the people who have latched onto them to siphon off wealth. The ones who actually have to interact with them, clean up messes, and know where both literal and figurative bodies are buried.
The only thing that puts billionaires out of reach of consequences is their billions we just have to remove that and let nature do the rest
Its the first step of your plan that is really the sticking point. They really don’t like doing that. And they have a lot of ways of avoiding it and harming those who tried. I love the way you frame it all but there is no way that that is going to happen peacefully. They would pay for roving gangs themselves to stoke fear long before they allowed it.
Right so then there will be some murder, as I said. You can’t just ask them politely for their money. Even if you show up and demand it with guns, they will have guns of their own, and will shoot back.
If they resist with violence, and we have to respond with violence.
That’s more criminal charges against them
You’re still operating under the premise that the billionaires are always right.
If we’re seizing our stolen wealth back from them, there’s no violence unless they start it. If they fight hard enough they die…
That’s not murder, it’s just not.
Stop fucking acting like the clock starts with us taking the money back, they’re hoarding stolen wealth, if they raise the stakes to violence to keep it, that’s the same as a bank robber shooting at cops.
They’re committing more crimes to keep their stolen wealth
What are you not understanding about seizing the money being the violent part? People don’t exactly take kindly to their money being seized, and at present there is 0 legal mechanism to seize all billionaire’s wealth.
Trying to add that legal mechanism into the system is what you will see extreme resistance to including state sponsored violence.
It’s like you are hand waiving the most difficult part
Tankies always roll over their feet
What’s crazy is there’s 31 different flavors of communism that doesn’t require unquestioning loyalty to a supreme leader, and tankies can all just easily choose to support any of them.
Keep every last good thing they claim to support, and just ditch the roving gangs of murderers and literal tanks crushing anyone that doesn’t 100% agree with them…
But they won’t, because the lust for violence is why they’re tankies in the first place, instead of any of the rational flavors of communism. They’re not tankies for the communism, it’s just a path to acceptable violence against an out group
Ironically this can be applied to a lot of your common folk fash supporters too. Some people just want to watch the world burn and don’t really care what path they have to take to get us there.
I agree but can we still have a little murder? As a treat? There are a few people that…well…
There’s less than 1,000 billionaires in america, and they control over $8,100,000,000,000…
They don’t need to be murdered though, you don’t get to be a billionaire without commiting enough crimes to be jailed for life. It’s just our legal system is a joke and they have more resources than the government.
Seize their resources
Prosecute them and give them a court appointed attorney
Nothing, we literally have to do nothing after that.
No roving gangs, no guillotines, throw them in the same ocean they throw us.
Completely ethical and moral, and that shit matters. Because how you start a new society influences it the entire time it exists.
Once their wealth is gone, all the underlings will be scrambling to turn states evidence, no one hates billionaires more than the people who have latched onto them to siphon off wealth. The ones who actually have to interact with them, clean up messes, and know where both literal and figurative bodies are buried.
The only thing that puts billionaires out of reach of consequences is their billions we just have to remove that and let nature do the rest
Its the first step of your plan that is really the sticking point. They really don’t like doing that. And they have a lot of ways of avoiding it and harming those who tried. I love the way you frame it all but there is no way that that is going to happen peacefully. They would pay for roving gangs themselves to stoke fear long before they allowed it.
I don’t think you understand how numbers work…
There’s less than 1,000 billionaires, there’s like 330,000,000 Americans
That’s 1 billionaire against 330,000 Americans…
Do you have any idea how many guns 330,000 random Americans have?
Right so then there will be some murder, as I said. You can’t just ask them politely for their money. Even if you show up and demand it with guns, they will have guns of their own, and will shoot back.
I’m about to give up on you understanding this…
We seize their money.
If they resist with violence, and we have to respond with violence.
That’s more criminal charges against them
You’re still operating under the premise that the billionaires are always right.
If we’re seizing our stolen wealth back from them, there’s no violence unless they start it. If they fight hard enough they die…
That’s not murder, it’s just not.
Stop fucking acting like the clock starts with us taking the money back, they’re hoarding stolen wealth, if they raise the stakes to violence to keep it, that’s the same as a bank robber shooting at cops.
They’re committing more crimes to keep their stolen wealth
What don’t you understand?
What are you not understanding about seizing the money being the violent part? People don’t exactly take kindly to their money being seized, and at present there is 0 legal mechanism to seize all billionaire’s wealth.
Trying to add that legal mechanism into the system is what you will see extreme resistance to including state sponsored violence.
It’s like you are hand waiving the most difficult part