Shocking, that when a company’s real purpose and focus is to make a product for customers, as opposed to making money for the investors, it is better for the customers…
Gabe dying is the major thing I fear in my life… It’s the last compamy I know about that’s not getting enshitiffied.
Ehh, I’m a big fan of valve but their hands are not perfectly clean. They do run the gambling machine for a shitfuck ton of money, even putting aside the rest of steam.
Now ofc, that whole “the rest of steam” part is still there and is obviously their main income, I recognize. And MOST importantly, fuck Sweeny and that dogshit other place. I just think we do give valve maybe not enough discredit sometimes?
I’m not saying they don’t have problems, and you’re right.
It’s still the best we have, while GoG is awesomer, they don’t have everything, plus there’s also the massive work done for Proton that singlehandedly saved Linux gaming, that they could have made proprietary, especially for SteamDeck.
As a developer, they also do take a massive cut.
But I’d say that’s minor compared to how it would look if it was owned by i.e Microsoft. And in how capitalism os turning out, it is a pretty rare sight.
I hope Gabe will at least last through the inevitable switch to cloud based gaming, that will probably start happening soon. I wonder what will they do.
True, and I use it whenever I can, but GoG is (as far as I know, maybe they contribute) not working on making sure games run on Linux (Proton), or increasing the Linux market share.
Tbh I have no idea what the current situation of Proton is. I thougjt it’s FOSS, but most of the development is/was done by Valve employees, so people paid for their work, that they made open source, instead of hoping for volunteers.
Please correct me if I’m wrong, but I assumed the situation is still the same - most of Proton development is done by people with Valve’s resources, and the general public contribution is small-ish --i.e people who do GE-Proton, or other runtimes.
But the core is work paid for by Valve. Of course, ot might live on wirhoute Valve support, it is a FOSS project, but what I understood, currently, the majority of development time is on Valve payroll.
Its also based on wine, they can’t fork wine and close source it. But you can fork it and use it anywhere else, just have to make sure any changes you make are also open.
Devs have an option to put DRM on. If the game doesn’t have DRM on steam, you van do the same thing, if it has DRM, then it isn’t available on GoG anyway.
Honestly am not too worried about what you’ve mentioned.
Those things will upset my life so radically, that there’s no point in worrying about that, plus I have a lot of first world privlidge buffer before it realistically affects my life. I’m not saying that it wouldn’t suck, but I don’t care. A lot of things will go to absolute life-changing shit for everyone around me if it also affects me.
Steam getting majorly enshitified will affect the major thing in my life, that I rely on to be able to handle the rest and retain at least some of my sanity, while changing nothing about the rest of my circumstances. It’s something I interact with daily.
Yes, I am reasonable, this is the thing I worry about the most, but I do recognize that it’s a privilige.
No worries! It made me honestly consider my opinions in broader, more real sense, and they still hold, so you did give me food for thought. So no offence taken.
DdCno: “Oh, the Worst day? Did you get diagnosed with cancer? Did you get hit by a bus and suffer full body paralysis? Did you lose your home and entire family in a fire? I don’t understand figures of speech!”
Shocking, that when a company’s real purpose and focus is to make a product for customers, as opposed to making money for the investors, it is better for the customers…
Gabe dying is the major thing I fear in my life… It’s the last compamy I know about that’s not getting enshitiffied.
Ehh, I’m a big fan of valve but their hands are not perfectly clean. They do run the gambling machine for a shitfuck ton of money, even putting aside the rest of steam.
Now ofc, that whole “the rest of steam” part is still there and is obviously their main income, I recognize. And MOST importantly, fuck Sweeny and that dogshit other place. I just think we do give valve maybe not enough discredit sometimes?
I’m not saying they don’t have problems, and you’re right.
It’s still the best we have, while GoG is awesomer, they don’t have everything, plus there’s also the massive work done for Proton that singlehandedly saved Linux gaming, that they could have made proprietary, especially for SteamDeck.
As a developer, they also do take a massive cut.
But I’d say that’s minor compared to how it would look if it was owned by i.e Microsoft. And in how capitalism os turning out, it is a pretty rare sight.
I hope Gabe will at least last through the inevitable switch to cloud based gaming, that will probably start happening soon. I wonder what will they do.
We have GOG too
True, and I use it whenever I can, but GoG is (as far as I know, maybe they contribute) not working on making sure games run on Linux (Proton), or increasing the Linux market share.
Proton is open source, you don’t need to use steam to benefit from it.
Tbh I have no idea what the current situation of Proton is. I thougjt it’s FOSS, but most of the development is/was done by Valve employees, so people paid for their work, that they made open source, instead of hoping for volunteers.
Please correct me if I’m wrong, but I assumed the situation is still the same - most of Proton development is done by people with Valve’s resources, and the general public contribution is small-ish --i.e people who do GE-Proton, or other runtimes.
But the core is work paid for by Valve. Of course, ot might live on wirhoute Valve support, it is a FOSS project, but what I understood, currently, the majority of development time is on Valve payroll.
Its also based on wine, they can’t fork wine and close source it. But you can fork it and use it anywhere else, just have to make sure any changes you make are also open.
So Lutris is free to use wine/proton.
I love GOG but I am concerned about their lack of transparency regarding AI slop.
At least you know they can never enshitify what you have already bought and downloaded.
Isn’t this the same with steam?
Devs have an option to put DRM on. If the game doesn’t have DRM on steam, you van do the same thing, if it has DRM, then it isn’t available on GoG anyway.
At least that is how I understood it.
Sometimes, and it isn’t as transparent as GOG.
Eh…
Care to elaborate?
Eh…
The major thing? Not global thermonuclear war? Not global warming leading to massive political and economic instability? Not democratic backsliding?
I like my PC games as much as the next guy, but let’s be reasonable: It’s just a luxury good.
Honestly am not too worried about what you’ve mentioned.
Those things will upset my life so radically, that there’s no point in worrying about that, plus I have a lot of first world privlidge buffer before it realistically affects my life. I’m not saying that it wouldn’t suck, but I don’t care. A lot of things will go to absolute life-changing shit for everyone around me if it also affects me.
Steam getting majorly enshitified will affect the major thing in my life, that I rely on to be able to handle the rest and retain at least some of my sanity, while changing nothing about the rest of my circumstances. It’s something I interact with daily.
Yes, I am reasonable, this is the thing I worry about the most, but I do recognize that it’s a privilige.
Alright, fair enough. Totally understandable position, now that I get the full picture. Sorry if I was a bit blunt.
No worries! It made me honestly consider my opinions in broader, more real sense, and they still hold, so you did give me food for thought. So no offence taken.
Someone: “I just had the worst day”
DdCno: “Oh, the Worst day? Did you get diagnosed with cancer? Did you get hit by a bus and suffer full body paralysis? Did you lose your home and entire family in a fire? I don’t understand figures of speech!”
I’m a rather literal person who tends to overthink things. Can’t help it.