I obviously have none, so I’d like to see if I can mooch off of you lol.

Please don’t leave any pessimistic top level comments. Or do, I’m not your mom 🤷‍♂️.

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    humanity is and will keep progressing.

    This doesn’t bring me optimism, personally. Why is that a good or relevant thing at all?

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      So would your rather we not have modern medicine, electricity, democracy over serfdom? What about cultural values where people are treated equal? Living past 40? I mean c’mon man I don’t know what kind of day your having and I’m sorry if it’s been rough for you lately. But you most definitely live a better life because of human progress.

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        The presupposition is that the existence and spread of humans is itself something good. I don’t agree with that and find no positivity therein. The people who cried “never again” are ignoring, enabling, or even participating in genocides and the repression of others. There’s an environmental disaster going on lead by governments and oligarchs. Inequality in the countries I’ve lived in has gotten worse in my life, not better. Human rights in many parts of the world continue to be stripped and cultural genocide happens. That’s not progress. “Maybe in a couple thousand years, if the species doesn’t destroy itself, things might mostly be equal and good and healthy” does nothing to bring positivity to my life, particularly when there is no indication of that happening.

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          But why rain on people’s parade? we are all having a rough life right now and doing our best to get through it. Everyone should find solice in what helps be happy in life.

          That’s kinda the whole point of living. Being happy and finding meaning.

          If this perspective doesn’t help you, that’s fine. But to hound people for theirs positivity because it doesn’t align with your thinking is just part of the problem.

          We shouldn’t be treating each other shitty, we should all be trying to pull each other up. Dont let these oligarchs you talk about win by doing their bidding.

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            But why rain on people’s parade?

            That wasn’t my intent. I was hoping for an answer to the question I posed that might change my mind. If people get solace from that, it’s fine; I don’t think my disagreement should or would change that.

            But to hound people

            In what way was I doing that?

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          Literally everything you’re describing was way worse a lifetime ago, not my lifetime, but my grandparent’s.

          My grandfather was a 10yo jew in occupied france, and my grandmother grew up in a barn with no running water or power with a dozen siblings during the US gilded age. Shit was so much worse back then.