It isn’t fox news I’m speaking about. But even they have programs that provide information and views that are important to political discussions but you don’t here them. The right are informed on the lefts talking points. The left are not informed on the rights and the constantly catch the left off guard lately
Just first one I picked. Compare this
https://lemmy.world/post/54197566
To this
In my opinion the conservative one is more informative. For lemmy the very first comment I see is just wrong.
Suspended Sentence though, so it’s really just a slap on the wrist
Then the rest of the comments are just repeating the same shit about “10 years is a long time” and “10 years isn’t a long time”
The conservative forum are a mix of people discussing the actual case and evidence and debating. The lemmy one is a series of people in agreement all saying the same thing without much new information and mostly just opinions about how they feel.
I do this is often with different stories and the right wing spaces are starting to be my go to for information whereas left wing spaces are not cutting it anymore. The idea that the left are more aware was something I think exists decades ago. I suspect the playing field has evened out if not totally reversed.
It’s like you people on the left are just brainwashed. Yes bots are a part of it. You think bots are cheap? It’s a numbers game. Every one should be out there over whelming every bot and right wing voice. Everyone should give them no quarter anywhere. The algorithms can only take them so far unless we decided to all of a sudden collectively give up so out spaces at a time that it mattered the most.
They convinced all of you to leave all the spaces so they could cheaply and effortlessly take over. Now they are infecting every single popular space with only their views and you all pat yourself on the back that you think I’m the idiot for pointing it out. It doesn’t matter if it’s bots or not. They are still more informed and better networked. You are less informed and way less networked. You’re on a website one of the only leftist spaces left that is built to be a snuff box. A website that took every corporate control reddit ever implemented and recreated it. A website that took every mematic theory and built itself purposefully to act like a foil to those ideas. They put all of you in a snuff box.
Absolutely I can. And I know it is. If you want information and you start going to left and right spaces I will guarantee the right wing space will be more informative in real time. The left catches up way after. But there is no insight from the left until the right wing spaces back the story.
You don’t even have a point to make.
I like that. But I’m not wrong. Compare any left wing comment section to a right wing one when a new event occurs and you’ll see it.
Just look at people here. It’s passive engagent. The right are actively engaged. Hell just look up content alone. Theirs is much more creative the left is more generic and what has it produced lately? The right have all kinds of IP? Not sure if that’s the right word but it’s all owned by the right like pepe and such. The left just isn’t producing they’re consuming. Deny it all you want. Argue because you’re on the left, never thought about it and jus want to react. But I’m right.
This it what drives me about the left. The average leftist is much less informed about stuff like this than people on the right.
It’s like people on the left went from being super politically active and informed to casual observer while the right flipped.
I keep seeing comments like this on leftists spaces where people have no idea what the fuck is going on meanwhile rightwing spaces are 8 layers deep in conspiracy but it’s all based on actual informative stuff that’s happening, it’s just twisted to suit themselves. The left is super cooked even if they start securing wins. People on the left just don’t have the ability to do what past generations could. They don’t like conflict. They want to do disengage and forget about it all during a time when maximum attention is required.
they just flaunt all this shit at us cuz theres nothing we actively do. they just laugh at us, look at howard nutlick.
No it has practically no impact. Back in the day it would. But user control means users could control how a website works. It meant we could reject ads or posts that were secretly selling us things or just political message that users controlled. Reddit and the other sites removed what it was originally for and left its dead corpse for us to feel like we’re doing something.
These spaces are all mods. Mods determine what we see. Lemmy decided to implement the same corporate control the reddit evolved into rather than the more liberal/leftist origins that made it popular at the start.
Moderators are not normal people. They should have almost no say in anything. The only reason to give them so much control is if you’re trying to create propaganda machine. Mods should only be there to remove illegal content and maybe protect against a brigade. Users take care of the rest. It’s literally how many leftist want society to run. Yet for some reason we use this overseer type model where mods abuse power every day and we just ignore it like we’re a police department. It’s ok as long as it gets the job done right boys.
I appreciate the honesty. I have brought great shame to my ancestors
Why the hell are you guys looking at voting. It’s a left over to placate users after they just went full overseer mode with our spaces. It’s a digital key chain they dangle. It doesn’t do anything
I mean are they not succeeding?
And we’re early. They’re still figuring out what works and doesn’t.
Yea really. You can search “couches fucking” and get the same results. It’s yet another story that bots will post to keep you clicking for the hour. You will write “yea fuck Trump he’s such a dick” then I guess up or down vote which are about as real as the tooth fairy but give a sense of something? I guess. Then you move on to the next story.
This lemmy place is built to keep you just engaged enough. It’s not like 4chan or Facebook or even reddit where a culture is built, investigations and research are done on these things and keeps going day to day by generating new content.
Lemmy is a place to collect leftist and keep them occupied while the nazis convince your uncle that kids are shitting in cat litter and it’s immigrants fault.
Look at how they built it. It’s every corporate control reddit implemented for corporate control just ramped up to 11. Why would you all accept that? Leftist use to stand for something, it’s just a vapid and dying culture and most civil action lately has been stuff cooked up by right wing groups to jingle keys like a modern cointelpro
They don’t need to bury stories anymore. Leftist have retreated all social spaces to right wing groups. They have no network. Barely any meaningful presence. It’s a digital age and the left somehow became luddite trying to convince people to meet in coffee shops.
It’s fucking over. In my life I have never seen a more devastating choke. The left essentially controlled all digital spaces and even media. Then the first sign of confrontation where leftist had to “punch nazis” they all collectively folded and said “don’t roll with pigs we’re too good” it turned out the left had no fight in it.
Nobody knows about this on any other site.
I wrote here first so I’ll just link to it here.
But yea you’re charitable understanding is right. I don’t think the average right winger has some logical or morally correct or deep understanding. But they have been exposed to more stories and views and frames on these events.
I know people have experienced what I’m about to say, we all have. You go to have a conversation and you start saying some topics and all of a sudden you’re hearing things from the right winger you had no idea was even happening. They know the points on the left but the people on the left aren’t aware of their points. I don’t just mean “abortions are murder” what I mean is stuff like “Trump just moved 2000 soldiers to Botswana after Biden failed attempt at securing the region back in 2008 operation freedoms puppies that he spearheaded” and you look it up and the details are accurate, the frame is hack but the details are accurate.
https://lemmy.world/comment/26784901