Sorry if this comes as a shock to some, but underneath the DSA facade Hasan is and has always been a “vote blue no matter who” Democrat shill.

It’s not about the candidate, it’s the party. Lenin himself could come back from the dead and voting for him would still be a dead end if he ran as a Democrat.

For any serious leftist movement to happen the left needs its own independent party. Ideally a communist party but even a non-communist third party would be an improvement at this point. Better to vote for the PSL or even the Green party (US Greens, not German Greens) than to continue trying the same thing over and over and failing, thinking “this time surely we can take over the Democratic party from the inside, this time surely the party machinery won’t swallow up all leftist momentum and turn it into establishment liberalism”.

US leftists have to recognize that both the Democrat and Republican parties are intractable enemies of the working class. Same for UK’s Labor party.

And this is structurally hard-coded into these parties.

So he blames it all on the “imperial apparatus”. The refusal of the Western Left to do any real introspection about its own faults (such as its chauvinism and its entryism – and their entryism is intimately tied to their exceptionalism, believing that it can succeed in the “civilized” West even though it has failed everywhere else) continues.

The reality is that if there weren’t such large swathes of the Western Left that were willing to embrace chauvinism and social-democratism and betray the international working class, no amount of repression would have succeeded in eliminating the real revolutionaries and so thoroughly suppressing class consciousness.

If the Western Left had stuck to the Marxist-Leninist and internationalist line instead of turning against their own more radical comrades and against Actually Existing Socialist states, then the only thing that the imperial apparatus could have done is go full Jakarta Method. This can be done in a colonized country but would have been too destabilizing for the imperial core.

But it was precisely the betrayal of the global south by large swathes of the Western Left that led it into the pathetic, disorganized, ideologically confused state and the dead end of social democratic entryism that it now finds itself in. And Hasan’s shilling for Democratic party candidates and his parroting of NATO anti-Russia propaganda won’t fix this.

Correct. These are just two examples. I personally don’t have much faith in the ability of any current communist party in the imperial core to be the vanguard of the revolution, but at least they’re doing stuff. Doing something is still better than doing nothing. And since my expectations of them are not particularly high i am also not too bothered by their various flaws. So long as they keep organizing, agitating, and educating instead of wasting their energy and time on fighting with other leftist groups.

That is what annoys me the most about Maoists and Trotskyists, it’s not that they are ideologically wrong (which they are) it’s that they act like wreckers and often seem to be more hostile to other communists than to the bourgeoisie and the reactionaries.

Again, i don’t feel like this sort of thing is productive. I’m sure that PCUSA has its issues and people with problematic views. By the same token there are probably people on their side who will say that CPUSA has too many radlibs in their organization. The name calling by both sides can go on all day and what good does that do? That just stops any real work from getting done and in the end those who benefit are the feds whose wrecking work is being done for them.

We need to stop being so dogmatic if we want to have a chance to actually succeed in building a mass movement. That does not mean compromising our principles but it does mean knowing how to pick our battles. Which are the primary contradictions and which are secondary for the time being?

I don’t know what the story is with that particular dispute but i urge you to read the article i linked in my previous reply. All of these splits, controversies and constant conflicts in leftist spaces benefit no one but Cointelpro.

Those cringy “patsocs” are irrelevant outside of their weird, niche online spaces. The answer to right-opportunism is not ultra-leftism, it is dialectical materialism and the proper application of Marxism-Leninism.

At the same time we need to stop being so obsessed with ideological purity that we turn against one of the few principled anti-imperialist communist groups in the US over one erroneous political line. Demanding perfection is a wrecker tactic.

I think you may be misrepresenting his position and that of PCUSA. Rainer explicitly denounces the so-called “patsocs” in this article. He certainly seems to have a very negative opinion of this “Haz” and of the online “patsoc” phenomenon in general.

As for HasanAbi, i have no idea what Rainer’s opinion of him is, i have never read anything he wrote that mentions him. I am not fond of HasanAbi at all, for many different reasons, not least of which being the reactionary position he has taken on the Ukraine conflict and the ignorant nonsense he spouts about it on a daily basis to his gullible young audience, but if you were to denounce communists based on their fondness of this one streamer then you would also have to distance yourself from the entire Deprogram trio for instance. They recently had Hasan on and basically did nothing but praise him and offered absolutely no pushback on his more problematic takes.