Fable is rank 5, Qwen 3.8 (with nothing claiming it’s the reduced 27b one) is rank 29, fuck you are you talking about.

Ask your local frontier model for help with your next comment.

As for local models if you want to maintain that DSv4.1, GLM-5.3-f, M-3.1, or ther ilk are not near frontier-level. Then, I guess you are allowed to be wrong.

lol

Yes, because that has worked so well in the past for alcohol, cannabis, homosexuality, or nuclear proliferation.

A list of examples where prohibition didn’t work is quite far from an argument that it never works, Plato. Leaded gasoline, CFCs, asbestos, DDT, should I go on?

This class of models is already perfectly capable of finding and exploiting vulnerabilities in software, and is within spitting distance of the frontier.

If you think frontier models are close to Qwen running on your 5090, you’re completely devoid of any knowledge on the subject and therefore this discussion becomes meaningless.

What should the good guys do?

Legislate AI away, except for the already existing open models that run on consumer-grade GPUs and are therefore orders of magnitude weaker and can’t be used to break down any systems.

Or penalize heavily any company developing a model that is subsequently used to invade a system, stopping this madness of separating the models from the operators of said models.

A plane’s wings are burning and it’s heading towards a mountain, opposite way to the nearest airport. Need a time machine to figure out what’s about to happen?

AI can be useful in some circumstances

And the point is that this statement can be true AND we can still think AI should cease to be used. The “useful in some circumstances” benefit does not justify the ethical and environmental cost.

get past there built in kneejerk reaction to anything AI related

Maybe because it’s not kneejerk. We know how AI works, what it takes to have it running, how it was built, who controls it. For many people, the ends do not justify the means (and that’s if we assume fixing CVEs on Linux is somehow worth the very problematic ends AI is leading us towards anyway).

Wow, how is this allowed? She’s 13

Your comment is the reason I had to go make another cup

Users love big tech. They pretend not to, but they love their shackles.

For instance, when Twitter was bought by Elon and people had that big migration wave… Mastodon was right there, a fully matured ecosystem, same or even better features… yet the majority picked Bluesky, the “features” Bluesky offered are there in Mastodon, the only difference is Bluesky is also owned by private tech bros.

It’s simple, really. Steam allows 18+ games, but it treats them under a special regime, you can fully disable them from view. AI games should be the same.

“Oh but developers will just lie” yeah they can lie about having a +18 asset in the middle of the game too, but as soon as they are caught and it’s proven, they are banned. Same if they hide malware.

“Oh but no game developer will disable Claude from VSCode, now what?”

There’s a difference between the kind of AI slop that dominated the latest demo fest vs using Claude in an IDE.

What point are you making?

That if I have to suffer through bad curation and filtering any way, paying for the service becomes irrelevant and I might as well get the games for free? The whole “piracy is a service issue” is GabeN’s most famous quote.

You know who also doesn’t "gatekeep"developers? Piracy websites, which I shall now use.

Steam is only worth it so far as it’s convenient and user friendly. AI slop flood is neither.