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      thats the reason they are forcing logins, they lost too many to attrition bans, they arnt generating any useful data for ai to scrape. with INdia becoming increasingly common on the site, i dont they will be much useful for manipulation opinions in other countries.

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    reddit yesterday, eliminated the old reddit for logged out lurkers, its only logged in. i found a reskin extension to make it old reddit, but it has some flaws, i think its new. needs alot of kinks to work out though.

    if you want an old reskin extension, its called class reddit layout on extensions, it makes the new ugly UI turn into the old one(it has flaws so be warned)

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      Same. Got banned for using a single word (actually forgot what it haha), and deleted my account. Now that it’s becoming login only, it’s even better to kick my habit.

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    Do we know what percentage of visits are from not logged in visitors? I imagine that all the people that visit reddit through searches for information are not likely to be signing up for a account, so they will be losing a bunch of that traffic and ad revenue.

    Putting all that community generated information behind a login screen is a massive loss even if you don’t use the site regularly.

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      Hell, I feel like the scraping problem still won’t be solved either since I can immediately see a repost/archive site being made that just mirrors reddit using account bots.

      Host it in a country that doesn’t recognize US corporate law, and you’ve got an instant in to a massive userbase.

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    According to Huffman, Reddit has grown to the point where personalization is increasingly necessary to help users find relevant communities and discussions.

    More lies from Spez.

    The change could also benefit Reddit’s advertising business by allowing it to serve more personalized ads

    The actual reason.

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      more like AI companies not finding reddit useful anymore to scrap= forcing spez to make reddit a login site only.

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      The actual reasons are certainly numerous but also certainly zero of them are “helping users find relevant communities and discussions”.

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        pretty much code words for “we need more fresh humans to login , because we just have bots running the site now”

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      spez wants a bubble algorithim to feed their users propaganda slop like facebook

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      It’s not entirely wrong, in that Reddit is so full of bots and junk that a sizeable chunk of the site is unusable. Any animal photo subreddit often has more bots than a farm.

      It’s either personalise or have the deluge.

      Coincidentally, Reddit has just announced plans to shutter their RSS feeds, so if you were using those to personalise your feed, good luck.

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        that will not stop botting at all, bots already can make accounts very easily because they dont care how much gets banned if they can create more, they can automate it. but normal users cant do that, because they will get banned very quickly. what spez saying is a lie anyways.

        also reddits have shown to preference not to filter out most propaganda botting anyways.

        most users are lurking because they dont want to have account ban.

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          It does not, but you can block/unsubscribe from communities that have too many of them on the main feed, or block particular users from showing up, which can help with the repeats. That otherwise takes more logic on RSS, and isn’t really possible on the website.

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      Pushing people into echo chambers isn’t even needed because people do that themselves. If you’re gonna profile people, autosubscribe all the libs to r/guns and all the conservatives to r/gender theory. At best people will learn something; at worst we’ll get a show.

      Also, fuck Spez and fuck surveillance capitalism.

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    With how much of the internet they occupy, and how much information they have, they can essentialy seggregate anyone they permaban from society into oblivion.

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      They recently had a mod event where they announced they are restricting ban abilities from mods. Basically AI can ban, mods can choose to unban - but not initiate a ban in the first place.

      There are a couple mods I like to hate-watch, once a month or so I swing by and see what kind of BS they have been doing lately. The schadenfreude of watching them mald over this was the best I’ve had all year.

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        dint know this news, im not surprise. probably came out at the same time they announced there will be AI dominated mods, who will “police” AI-subs. probably realized that overbanning has caused them to lose many users/ and now there are more lurkers than not. at the same time, reddit doesnt want to give up thier ai moderation and filtering.

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    To be fair, Reddit has been Zombie Reddit for about 5 years now.

    When they received $150 million from Tencent in 2018, the writing was on the wall. You cannot accept that kind of money and keep to the original aspiration. The IPO just accelerated it.

    The amount of slop on there nowadays is wild! Even the smallest communities are being overrun with it and they don’t give a damn because it is good for business short term.

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    I don’t want curated posts only of my interest. I love /all for the scrolls. It’s a sad shell of what it used to be with leadership that wishes they were Elon.

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    Good! Finally the last holdover users will reconsider open source alternatives

    What we need now is for every modteam on Reddit who have an alternative on Lemmy, to actually advertise it. Now is the time to do so.

    A pinned post should do great to point people in the right direction

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      Good! Finally the last holdover users will reconsider open source alternatives

      LOOOOLOLOL brother, I want some of what you’re smoking because I want to exist in this reality where people are fleeing Reddit rather than flocking to it. This only affects logged-out visitors, not so much “users”. Most platforms have been this way for a long time and seen no such decline either. Pretty much the entire internet is already account-gated.

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      Finally the last holdover users will reconsider open source alternatives

      The holdover users already have accounts, so this change will not affect them.

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        i came from a ban, at the time i remember lemmy was remember during the API crisis, then i just made account, on instance, when it got shut down i went to another instance.

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        Welcome!

        Just remember Lemmy is only part of a larger network called the Fediverse. If you find you don’t really like it, there are other alternatives like Mbin and PieFed. They’re all pretty good I think, but Mbin is probably my personal favorite. There are also custom lemmy interfaces like old.lemmy.world, as well as lots of different mobile clients.

        All the different instances and platforms can tall talk to each other, so you can subscribe to communities you like from any of them, as long as they are connected (aka federated). So somebody on https://kbin.earth/ (an Mbin instance) could subscribe to !micromobility@lemmy.world (a community on a Lemmy instance) and post there, browse, etc. even though they’re different websites.

        You can sign up for any instance you want and if you hate them all, you can even make your very own.

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          This is a great breakdown.

          I’ll share I pretty much only signed up for lemmy.world because I looked up which one had the most users (not that it seems to matter with all the crossover).

          I wonder if there’s another instance I’d like more!

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            worlds is the largest one, but its problematic if you dont block the politics communities ones, i made one on lemmytoday as my goto.

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            I made accounts on a few different ones to check them all out but I started in kbin.social while it was still a thing (the admin had some health issues I heard, hope he’s doing ok). Kbin was the predecessor to Mbin, which got picked up by some other devs thankfully.

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              Kbin.social was my first too, Ernest was a king and I hope he’s doing well and thriving in life.

              Made a handful of alts when it became clear kbin was going away. Ended up using .zip as my main as I like their hands-off approach to moderating/degeneration. We’re federated with everyone except malicious/criminal instances by default. If you don’t want to see things you need to block them yourself which I like a lot.

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        the reddit mods of the large subs should not be one on here, because many of them are powermods(they have hordes large accounts under thier belt, plus i heard many of those are in cahoots with the admins of reddit.

        what lemmy needs is the niche subs. also indian subs are pretty much taking over reddit, solely because of the sheer number of people in india, apparently they dont have a sole “social media” platform of thier own. and i heard this is drama with india subs, solely because of the BJP bots.

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        The advantage lemmy has is that unlike reddit, you can easily make a community of the same name, just on a different server in the case of mod disagreements.

        Its MUCH harder to powertrip on lemmy, both because the mod tools are ass, and spinning a new community isnt hard.

        Didn’t like tenforward have tHe Exodus drama with some mod?

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          Its MUCH harder to powertrip on lemmy, both because the mod tools are ass, and spinning a new community isnt hard.

          Do Lemmy instances also have that “no brigading” rule of Reddit that only exists for mods?

          Because I think that rule contributed a lot to make mods more heavyhanded on their communities, even if they didn’t intend to.

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            unfortunately they dont, but its easier to block the whole instance. at least 2 instances crossbanned me, even if barely interacted with those.

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        You got a point… What i meant to say is whoever is maintaining the migration of content to lemmy. Hope they put some effort into advertising Lemmy as a viable alternative.