You really don’t have any clue what you’re talking about, do you? You were the one that brought up the Duma, I referenced actual scholars, including firmly anti-communist scholars like Kotkin. Truth doesn’t matter to you in the slightest, just using historic tragedy to bat for billionaires and a predatory system of capitalism. You aren’t even trying to convince anyone, so why bother?
I already admitted to all genocides committed by capitalists, so I don’t know how I’m defending them. You really see this a sports team thing, right?
BTW lol @ “scholars”
You should in fact reread this thread. I referenced Chinese scholars, anticommunist western scholars like Kotkin, and more. The archival evidence of Stalin being unaware of the famine isn’t Stalin making shit up after the fact, it’s a documented instance of the Central Committee being kept in the dark by the Ukrainian Communists and needing to deal with the consequences.
My evidence never contradicted me, you didn’t even know what you were saying for the majority of this conversation and got your talking points mixed up.
Israel states no genocide in Palestine. We can go home now, nothing to see here.
You really don’t have any clue what you’re talking about, do you? You were the one that brought up the Duma, I referenced actual scholars, including firmly anti-communist scholars like Kotkin. Truth doesn’t matter to you in the slightest, just using historic tragedy to bat for billionaires and a predatory system of capitalism. You aren’t even trying to convince anyone, so why bother?
I already admitted to all genocides committed by capitalists, so I don’t know how I’m defending them. You really see this a sports team thing, right? BTW lol @ “scholars”
You should in fact reread this thread. I referenced Chinese scholars, anticommunist western scholars like Kotkin, and more. The archival evidence of Stalin being unaware of the famine isn’t Stalin making shit up after the fact, it’s a documented instance of the Central Committee being kept in the dark by the Ukrainian Communists and needing to deal with the consequences.
We investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.
I did in fact read it.
Sure thing buddy.
I did read it, it did not disprove the single source it was meant to counter, and moreover it said nothing of the other half dozen I listed.
You should read it again, carefully this time. The other sources being literally Stalin, lol.
No, it did not.
See, you didn’t read it. Or my comment pointing the exact paragraph.
Already have, you should.
I doubt it, again: it contradicted you.
They did not, in fact, contradict me.
Yeah, next time read them.
Nah, I clearly gave you half a dozen sources.
Yes you did. And they contradicted you. Maybe comprehension?
You’re confused if you think Wikipedia is a source. I gave half a dozen sources, none of them Wikipedia.
It must have been the holy ghost…
Yep, and your claims go against it.
I just quoted it, hard to be against it.
Evidently you don’t, because you keep inventing falsehoods.
It’s your source man…
I’ve read both, you’re wrong.
Weird, I just agree with your sources!
Please elaborate, everything I have linked backs me up.
So, you haven’t read either you sources or my comments pointing it out?
You’re confused, the scientific consensus aligns with what I said
Except your own source contradicts that. Splendid work.
I’ve always understood that you have nothing to go off of.
Except the scientific consensus. Minor detail.
I’ve already understood it, you haven’t so far though.
I’m glad you finally got it. Progress.
You have to read 100%, not the 1% that agrees with your political beliefs.
Excalty! You got it finally.
I’ve read it, you’re wrong.
You have to read 100%, not the 1% that agrees with your political beliefs.
My evidence never contradicted me, you didn’t even know what you were saying for the majority of this conversation and got your talking points mixed up.
Read it again. Make sure you sit down, tho!
You haven’t posted any evidence, you just rejected what even liberal historians acknowledge.
No, I haven’t. I didn’t need to, since your evidence contradicted you. Thanks, I guess?