I recently looked at the prices of pre built desktop in my country and the PS5 offers better price to performance, if it is jailbroken that is. The prices are ridiculous. I wanted a desktop to play games, the price isn’t worth it. Every month I see an increase in the price.
Why is everyone so obsessed with the 5090? It was always a luxury item. The real tragedy are the cards that used to be between $150-$350, you know, the ones people actually buy to play games with. That was the GPU market. For the first time I can remember “build a PC to save money” is bad advice. And it’s sad for the hobby.
Because game development has worsened, optimization is seen as a waste of investor money, so unoptimized games release that are built with insane graphics on test boxes with massive headroom.
When released, consumer grade equipment can barely handle it. So, the 5090, being the top tier card, becomes the only option to some people who want to enjoy the best fidelity in their games, like 60fps on their 4k monitors. Could it be excessive? Of course. But if a game was actually optimized as well, 60fps on 4k should be achievable by the 70 lines, not just the 90
That’s just an argument to not buy shitty unoptimized games. I’ve been going through my backlog with the occasional Indy game.
5090 is a consumer GPU. Feels different.
5090 is a consumer GPU kinda like a Bugatti Veyron is a consumer car, technically true, but if your goal is to get any sort of reasonable value for your money you really shouldn’t buy either of them.
Something like a 5070 is 25% slower, but you can buy seven of them for the price of one 5090.
That price range hasn’t changed much.
The RTX3050 released around $300 MSRP.
The current gen 5050 goes around $300 today.
If anything, the prices of that range went down due to inflation…
A 5050 is 500€. About 400 without tax, but that’s still about 450 murican dollars.
3060 ti launched just over $300 MSRP, the 3050 was actually about 250.
Hell, the RTX 3050 is still expensive.
My 3090 costs more than it was new… that is messed up.
That price range was for the XX60 and on a good sale the XX70. The fact that $300 gets you an XX50 is a tragedy.
The 3060 released at $329, the 3070 came out at $499…
The 2060 released at $349, 2070 also at 499.
The 16xx series stood out for being incredibly low priced, but it had no real high end cards.
GTX10 midrange ended at 1060, at $299, 1070 was high-end, at 449.
Meanwhile…
4060 release price was $299, 4070 $599.
5060 release price $299, 5070 $549.
So no, the entry level you’re saying people are mainly buying for gaming… it actually went down in price.
Yes because release price=price people actually buy it at. Also show me a 5060 at $300. The release price used to be the price early adopters had to pay as a premium. Now it’s a discounted price that you can never actually get.
Why am I arguing with you. You’re seriously claiming Graphic card prices didn’t increase. That should have been enough to make me block you and ignore your nonsense.
All GPUs are luxury items
Ha! Just noticed the downvotes. My eyeballs are examining the top of my skull right now. 🙄🙄
Why don’t y’all go explain your right to cheap GPUs to a skeletonized Palestinian child.
Shortly before these fucking price hikes I upgraded my servers with 5090s and 256GB each. Plus my gaming rig with 5090 and 128GB.
For the ram alone I could now buy a used compact car and for the 5090s another one.
If this isn’t total madness… And I once thought that 300 moneyz for a 3dfx is “a bit exaggerated”. Haha haha h haha haha.
and for the 5090s another one.
Yea have you checked the prices in the last week or 2? For what I’m reading as at least 3 5090s, you could easily buy a new compact car. You’d be lucky to get one under 10k new now, used can’t be much cheaper.
ah lick me sideways and call me sally…
No i haven’t…two weeks ago it was at “just” 4000,- here…now it’s double. nvidia and llms: go fuck yourselves.
What you run in a desktop that needs 128gb ram before the bus width isn’t good no more. Server things I can see somewhat. But a desktop.
Now hear me out… there was a time when we didn’t have to ask “do I actually need this much” because it didn’t cost a fortune to have a nice computer.
Well a 5090 and 128 GB of RAM wasn’t exactly cheap even then lol, I’m suspecting this guy must’ve dropped around 10k in upgrades for the PC + servers and that’s assuming there were only two, the smallest amount to warrant a plural. Now it’d be closer to 50k I believe
So this is why microcenter is making people sign waivers. Because everyone knows it’s happening they just need to prove their not taking part.
My computer that was made in 2019 went 2x in price because I bought SSDs and RAM and maxed it out. Crazy times.
Personally, I am all right with this. Eventually those cards will be obsolete at the data farms, and be resold to everyday people. We little folk will want all the local AI power we can muster, and odds are these cards will get modded to have more VRAM onboard and slim enough to only take double-width slots.
My own RTX 4090 takes one and a half double-width slots, preventing me from having a third RTX 3060 to support my projects.
I doubt they will be resold if they are physically modified
Maybe AI will make bizarre hardware usable with novel, stripped down and adapted OSs even as traditional PCs become rarer.
Edit: Am I getting downvoted for being wrong, or for saying something positive about AI? I mean, if you could run Linux on a PS5… wait a minute.
https://linuxstans.com/turn-your-ps5-into-a-powerful-linux-gaming-pc/
You can run Linux on a PS5. And probably thanks to AI.
Maybe Jesus will kiss me on the cheek and I’ll be able to perfectly render GTA 6 rtx in my mind.
But maybe we live in reality.
(science side of my opnion, LLMs are almost the same algorithm as a search engine in the background, making true novelty impossible. No one has yet created another novel OS like you describe for the AI companied to scrape, repackage, and resell yet, so its impossible for the LLMs to output such an OS.)
(The other other side of it is what do you even mean by a novel, stripped down, adapted OS? Like what has FOSS been developing for the past 40 years lmao? Anyone in the OS dev world knows usually the system itself is the most optimised part of the whole computer. Let’s shit on uncompressed 140gig games if we want to shit on someone)
