And then only the criminals would have them. You know because criminals tend to break the law so making a tool that they used to break the law illegal wouldn’t really impaire them.
yeah uh who trained it? how many gigawatts and thousand gallons of water did it take for inference?
near frontier levels of stolen shit, which is fine, it’s all stolen, but holy hell don’t act like it didn’t require idiotic amounts of precompiling and a moral ambivalence to the stolen corpus.
There’s a lot of people in here who don’t know about open weight models that can run on an old 7900XTX.
The data center part of LLMs is how they’re going to try to make money off of LLMs. The technology to use it for nefarious uses is already loose in the world.
No, you’re simply oblivious to the fact that it’s all built on theft. someone has to compute the inference, requiring tremendous amounts of resources, built on theft. you’re not going to keep the llm and destroy the data center, even if you steal the fucking model someone had to compute it.
You should reread the thread and hopefully you can see that you are missing the point. Even if you are technically correct. Your comment doesn’t contribute to the thread. Which is why they are downvoted
That was my first thought. I think the difference is that AI isn’t a literal killing machine. AI is more like a hammer, it can be used that way. A gun is a killing machine.
I think the difference is that AI isn’t a literal killing machine
Tell that to the Iranian schoolchildren Claude thought were viable military targets (you can’t, they’re dead as hell), and to the people using AI drones to loiter and auto select targets in Ukraine.
A gun is a killing machine.
A gun is a machine designed to fire a projectile, what you aim it at is what decides if it’s a “killing” machine or just a long distance hole puncher.
A bow is much the same, while it “is” a “killing machine,” designed for use in war and hunting, the archers shooting at targets at the range near my house aren’t murderers, they’re just target shooters. Would they use their bow to defend their house, just as I may use my gun that has only shot paper to do the same? Yes, they might, but only one of us is apparently deserving of ire from the uninformed, despite being the exact same situation.
Technically, math helps us figure out the diameter and barrel length as well as the amount of accelerant to create adequate pressure to fire a bullet to accurately kill things, so in the end it’s all math’s fault.
LLMs are hacking tools actively used to commit cyber crimes. They should be shut down and deleted now.
And then only the criminals would have them. You know because criminals tend to break the law so making a tool that they used to break the law illegal wouldn’t really impaire them.
Of course every criminal has easy access to large data centers, and stuff. Except for the federal three letter criminals, of course.
Criminals don’t own datacenters running the models that actually pose a threat.
No does anybody else, but apparently they have access to them well we wouldn’t even be talking about it.
Mid-high gaming pc money will have you running near-frontier level models locally.
train tho?
yeah it’s always “we can run them on our gpus!”
yeah uh who trained it? how many gigawatts and thousand gallons of water did it take for inference?
near frontier levels of stolen shit, which is fine, it’s all stolen, but holy hell don’t act like it didn’t require idiotic amounts of precompiling and a moral ambivalence to the stolen corpus.
Or maybe they’re too stupid to know lol
DiLoCo
this would be amazing… if you could convince people to use it lol.
as is, it’s a retort without meaning, it doesn’t change the situation if nobody uses it.
mhm
There’s a lot of people in here who don’t know about open weight models that can run on an old 7900XTX.
The data center part of LLMs is how they’re going to try to make money off of LLMs. The technology to use it for nefarious uses is already loose in the world.
still built on theft. stop acting like running your own model means it wasn’t built on top of giant fucking theft.
I mean yeah, you’re right. Guess you missed the point…
No, you’re simply oblivious to the fact that it’s all built on theft. someone has to compute the inference, requiring tremendous amounts of resources, built on theft. you’re not going to keep the llm and destroy the data center, even if you steal the fucking model someone had to compute it.
but cute distractions kiddo
Your reading comprehension is lacking
right up there with your critical thinking skills.
You should reread the thread and hopefully you can see that you are missing the point. Even if you are technically correct. Your comment doesn’t contribute to the thread. Which is why they are downvoted
lemmy users will miss any point you make, no matter how obvious, if it lets them jockey for attention.
it’s fascinating that you’re ignoring the premise while validating their ignorance.
childish, but fascinating.
Tripling down on that whoosh.
Thats a level of dedication you don’t see often these days.
lol use all your alt accounts to neg me I’m into it
Mathematics is a tool used to compute missile trajectories and weapon yields. Math should be shut down and deleted now.
LOL
Guns are a tool used to kill people, guns should be shut down and deleted now.
That was my first thought. I think the difference is that AI isn’t a literal killing machine. AI is more like a hammer, it can be used that way. A gun is a killing machine.
Tell that to the Iranian schoolchildren Claude thought were viable military targets (you can’t, they’re dead as hell), and to the people using AI drones to loiter and auto select targets in Ukraine.
A gun is a machine designed to fire a projectile, what you aim it at is what decides if it’s a “killing” machine or just a long distance hole puncher.
A bow is much the same, while it “is” a “killing machine,” designed for use in war and hunting, the archers shooting at targets at the range near my house aren’t murderers, they’re just target shooters. Would they use their bow to defend their house, just as I may use my gun that has only shot paper to do the same? Yes, they might, but only one of us is apparently deserving of ire from the uninformed, despite being the exact same situation.
Technically, math helps us figure out the diameter and barrel length as well as the amount of accelerant to create adequate pressure to fire a bullet to accurately kill things, so in the end it’s all math’s fault.
If math wasn’t there trial and error would have taken over. (Hell it might have been a lot of that anyway tbh…)
Knives are a tool used to kill people, knives should be shut down and deleted now.
Uh oh, you can’t point out mainstream cognitive dissonance you’ll get a down vote spanking.