the title and concept make my head and heart hurt. terrifying stuff.
Because religion is moral…
Because religion has such a strong history of producing morally good outcomes?
End result of the modern tech bro’s refusal to give a glance to the humanities
They should have started with asimov. Instead they started with 4chan and are hoping American christianity will fix it? That’s how you get school shooters.
Have these people never watched Battlestar Galactica? Religious zealotry is the last thing we need AI to have!
Really? Some say it isn’t that simple?
Seems like a bit of an understatement…Ah fuck, now the future Android and iOS Crusades will wipe us all out.
Now form your future responses as if you were a buff blonde Jesus Christ who owns a bitchin’ red Ford F-150 with monster truck wheels. Forever.
And thus the AI jihads against other AI’s began…
To be fair, some of those other AIs were Muslim, they had no choice but to launch the strike!
flooding random message boards looking for the faithful, launching ddos’s on their enemies… hrmm… not seeing how this is different than analog religion
Great, we’re going to indoctrinate AI into bigotry too. We live in a society
To make AI morally good, turn over the tech to the public from which its training data was stolen. Dissolve companies, imprison the heads who orchestrated the theft. That would be a start.
Traditionally Catholicism has never been even slightly compatible with Socialism. Except that one time in the 1930s/40s. And that wasn’t really socialism.
What does religion have to do with morals?
A lot of people are shitty people and need the threat of someone always watching them to behave.
I don’t know, ask the majority of people that have ever lived.
All religion is immoral.
Yeah … about the worst AI apocalypse I could imagine is an AI that’s been trained on religious texts as its basis of morality, so it then starts enforcing literal interpretations upon the entire world.
Honestly, I’d prefer a paperclip maximizer.
All religion
It’s too broad of a statement. Could you tell us where’s the “immorality” for, say, Wicca or Hermeticism?
The truly held belief in magical things is dangerous to all of us sadly. Just look at the new age/yoga mom to Qanon pipeline.
To be fair, I’d take a Wiccan or the like over an adherent of the Abrahamic faiths every day, and twice on Sunday.
The truly held belief in magical things is dangerous to all of us sadly. Just look at the new age/yoga mom to Qanon pipeline.
Again, that’s a statement taking an exception (individuals from specific branches of “new age spirituality”) and extrapolating it to all Pagan faiths, ignoring how there are cases in which the opposite pipeline happens.
Also, the OC’s wording, the use of the adjective “immoral” for “all religions” (which includes non-Abrahamic faiths), is what triggered me and further led me to my earlier comment, because I live in a mostly-christian country, Brazil, where there’s recurring religious intolerance from many (notice I’m try to avoid the “all” generalization) evangelical churches against Quimbanda and other Afro-Brazilian faiths, the Romani people, and other non-Abrahamic faiths, with practitioners from such faiths being mocked, ostracized, even physically harmed and killed by intolerant evangelicals… and this very word, “immoral”, is the argument such evangelicals often use to “justify” their attacks, as I myself grew tired of hearing this same wording from in-person evangelicals regarding my Lilith-centered belief; statements such as “The devil makes you commit «sins» [a broad umbrella word for anything said evangelicals don’t like, including but not limited to, Gender Affirmation, with me having discovered and became very fond of my Queer me thanks to Lilith], that’s immoral”…
Look it’s great that you’ve got some imaginary being in your head that has helped you accept yourself as you are.
It’s honestly great and I’m sorry that you grew up in a very religious society which can be intolerant of behavior that does not conform to tradition. Do you think that this upbringing could be the reason that you want the blessing of an imaginary* being, one that you can tell yourself is superior to humans, especially those who have hurt you?
* By imaginary, I mean only existing in your mind, otherwise invisible, leaving no clear trace in the physical world. For religious people, these attributes make that being special, and full of potential. Think of what such a being could know or accomplish, unrestricted as it is by the laws of our mundane everyday reality! But for non-religious, can you not see that these same qualities make such beings irrelevant, and even dangerous, because we can create them as we want them, and use them to justify our own shitty behaviour? This is where the concern about immorality comes from - the abdication of responsibility for one’s own beliefs and actions.
As a nearly lifelong atheist who was raised by an abusively religious Catholic and lapsed Jew who never met a scrap new age nonsense she didn’t immediately graft into her personality, I about I have an exceptionally dim view of all forms of magical thinking. Even more to the point, my mother left me with lifelong issues by intentionally ignoring the effects of a severe TBI I received as a child.
That said, I am at best indifferent to the panoply of paganistic creeds. I view them as the absolutely least dangerous of this spectrum.
LOL. AI is already a religion. Completely made up bullshit. It’s just another con. Tell AI all your secrets, just like a priest/minister. So many promises that never come true. It’s a huge scam.
Eh? I have several “vibe coded” firmware projects under my belt now. No one’s found a bug yet.
That aspect of AI works.
