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    4 days ago

    People are forgetting the largest group of data centers are motivating: non-voters and non-voters tend to not have a party affiliation and thus will probably vote Democrat, like they did in 2020

  • eicker@lemmy.worldOP
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    16 days ago

    Turns out »bringing the future to rural America« is a tougher sell when the future arrives as a windowless warehouse guzzling water and electricity while your bills climb. Republicans get the backlash, Democrats get the votes, and both parties get checks from the same tech lobby. Truly bipartisan innovation.

  • Goldholz @lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    15 days ago

    It is seriousely beyond me that for so many people it first has to hurt them before they react. Instead of thinking long term based and not short term emotional and egotistical

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      15 days ago

      I’ve witnessed so much of it at this point that I’ve come to accept it.

      It still hurts to watch though. Nothing you do will convince them until they hurt just like the rest of us. Even if you tell them that it will hurt them eventually, even if you beg and plead for their own safety, until they feel that pain they won’t care.

  • lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world
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    15 days ago

    I’ll believe it when Trump is hanging from a lamppost. Until then, these headlines are disinformation and should be disregarded.

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    16 days ago

    A shitton of voters will NEVER vote for a Dem, no matter how bad things get. For some it’s gun rights, for others it’s being anti-abortion or anti-LGBT, and most believe liberals are EXTREMISTS because Fox News pounds that into their brain 24/7.

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      15 days ago

      With how close our elections typically are, you don’t need to convince every single one, just picking away at the fringes should be enough

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      14 days ago

      Especially when there is a fascist government in charge that wants to murder all opposition. Like, hell no am I going to tell a random phone number how I’m going to vote.

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    16 days ago

    Nothing will push them to vote Dem.

    They may vote for an independent candidate or not vote at all, but they will not vote Dem, regardless of how many Dem policies align with their own.

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      15 days ago

      Some of them actually will. Not everyone who dumbly voted for Trump is a hardcore magat, it just looks that way on social media

      I live in maga central and I do know people who’ve changed over to voting for Dems.

      There’s really no need for this level of cynicism. I understand why you feel this way but it doesn’t help anything.

      • dan1101@lemmy.world
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        16 days ago

        Just because many of the MAGA are beyond redemption, people still need to VOTE! A lot of the reason we have trump 2.0 is because 66% of voters didn’t vote.

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        16 days ago

        Is it really defeatism, though? Simply not voting at all could turn tides. And it’s not like Republicans haven’t proven them right again and again and again and again. Republicans are conditioned HARD to never, ever consider voting for a Democrat.

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          15 days ago

          I think it is considering the assertion was they’re never going to change… On an article about them changing.

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      15 days ago

      Obama won in 2012. Trump won in 2016. Then a bunch of his voters switched and Biden won in 2020. And then a bunch of his voters switched to Trump in 2024.

      It seems inarguable that a critical number of voters are absolutely capable of changing their minds.

      • kestrel7_7@lemmy.world
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        15 days ago

        What you’re missing is that not the same amount of people voted in all of those elections. 2012 and 2020 had high voter participation, 2016 and 2024 did not. Trump got fewer votes in 2016 than Romney did in 2012. If everyone who voted for Obama in 2012 had also voted for Clinton, Trump never would have won.

        Same thing with ‘24, if everyone who voted for Biden in ‘20 had voted for Harris in ‘24, we never would’ve had Trump 2. This is why I think Trump isn’t very popular, he just wins by default when the Dems run a bad campaign or have an uninspiring candidate (side note, I totally think America is ready for a woman president, just not Clinton or Harris specifically)

    • Yuccagnocchiyaki@lemmy.world
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      14 days ago

      Yes. But it is important to note that ACTUAL Democrats and left wing candidates in local elections are not the same as the corporate neoliberals

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        14 days ago

        How in the ever loving fuck do you figure that? Democrats are a neoliberal party from the top down. The only places they allow leftists to actually run are places they’d win as a third party anyway. Democrats exist to stop the left just as much as Republicans.

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          14 days ago

          Uh, no they aren’t because they have democratic socialists and social Democrats? What do you mean?

          You think Bernie, AOC, Tallarico, Ilhan Omar, etc are all neoliberals?

          Please don’t, we already have to fight all of these blue magas without takes like this.

          I know that the corporate Democrats (neoliberals) are funding maga against the left. That’s my issue with them. But the party does have good people in it although they are not in control at all right now

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      14 days ago

      The problems with the data centers are not the data centers. It’s the missing environmental regulations. Democrats have some ideas about that.

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        14 days ago

        Incorrect, but nice try. The problem with the AI society destruction machines is the fact that they are AI society destruction machines.