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    I’m sure you are in touch trying to keep Krasnov in power and destabilize the Free World! How’s that Special Operation going in Ukraine? Any refineries left and how’s your gas shortages?

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    If a shooter comes for Musk and he’s protecting himself with a child, I don’t mind the child croaking as collateral, as long as this giant cunt is offed.

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      it’s an unpleasant ethical question

      where is the line for what is acceptable for the greater good? how many others would you let die to save one child?

      when only one side plays by stricter morals, the game is unfair

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    The guy should immediately have his security clearance revoked for not reporting his exchanges with foreign entities.

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      What treason? Trump buying from Russia and ending sanctions. This is just the club following the leader.

      We arent in the club so it seems confusing to us

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    “American partnerS”

    So Musk, Trump…and who else is partnering with Putin? Any citizen of the US who partners with Putin is a traitor.

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      I pretty much disagree with Putin on just about everything… well, mostly everything. I think we’d agree that anyone at all who partners with him should be thrown out of a window.

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      Is it really treason if it’s in line with what the government is doing?

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        It is if the government is also treasonous. Is it possible to charge an administration for treason? Perhaps we’ll see soon. Probably not, though.

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          No, but I bet we could be charged for treason for speaking against Cheesecake Saddam

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            Sorry to interrupt, but why the cheesecake? I just found it hilarious for some reason, but I’m not getting whether the cheesecake bears any hidden meaning I’m not getting.

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              The Cheesecake Factory is a restaurant chain. Its decor is intentionally over-the-top.

              Saddam Hussein lived a very extravagant lifestyle, even by dictators’ standards, and famously built himself palaces so overfilled with gold and precious things that instead of looking luxurious they looked tacky and in horrible taste.

              Obama joked that Trump’s White House looks like if Saddam Hussein opened a Cheesecake Factory (Trump and MAGA took it about as well as you can imagine).

              The brilliance of the joke is that, while being on the surface about interior design, Obama called Trump a narcissistic dictator getting rich by stealing from his own people. And clearly MAGAs choose to focus their response only on the Cheesecake part of the joke.

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              Obama made a joke that the white house with the renovations under Trump (with all the gold and such) looks like as if Saddam opened a cheese factory. Of course the Republicans didn’t have any sense of humor…

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          You sort of have to go down the line person by person, but yes (assuming we still had a functional 3 branch government). Article II, Section 4 of the Constitution:

          The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

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          It’s not like US elections weren’t rigged by massive campaign spending before. This is literally how the system is set up and worked for decades before. Musk just did it “right” by buying the biggest media platform of the time. People literally laughed at the massive financial loss he made with Twitter… then the government changed. Some still don’t get what Musk did there.

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            People being uninformed mixed with misinformed will be the death of this species

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              People were always uninformed and greed rules the world since at least ten centuries. We literally had leaded gasoline and chemicals killing the ozone layer.
              But we also got MAD figured out - probably the biggest achievement in human existence. And we banned leaded gasoline and the ozone layer killer chemicals. We solved acid rain too.
              I think, our species is actually progressing positively right now - even though it may not always look like that.

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                I hope you’re right, I’m tired of drowning in division and idiocy.

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      He’s barely American. Born in South Africa, raised in Canada. Idk why people ever expected him to be an American patriot.

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      Now there’s a summarial execution I wouldn’t mind catching the livestream of

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          As a conservative, I must insist that we hold to time-honored traditions of how to deal with this.

          Add his awful children as well, Romanov style.

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          Hmmm, that would be spectacular, but mercifully quick.

          Perhaps we could put them in a carbon fiber submersible and cycle it between the ocean floor and back until it delaminates. That way the evemt is still quick, but they’ll first endure hours of anticipation.

          …. Or we could just do it Mussolini style

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      Musk should be guillotined, but the US Constitution defines treason very spefically for a good reason. And this isn’t that.

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          Did the US declare war on Russia this week? I didn’t hear about that.

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            I mean… Are you “at war” with every enemy all the time or can one have an enemy and not technically be in a state of war?

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              Well, the US is almost constantly at war. I didn’t realize you guys also included everyone you’re not currently bombing as enemies as well.

              Though I guess the US use of Ukraine as a proxy is close enough . . .

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          Don’t you have to be a government official to be tried for treason? That said, Musk did run an illegal government agency once, not that long ago. Musk might qualify for treason.

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        Maybe this isn’t but that doesn’t mean Musk hasn’t committed, and shouldn’t be tried for, treason.

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          The point is, why is Russia supposedly the enemy of the US again?

          Seems the US has lots of enemies, and the liberals and conservatives just disagree on who they should be at constant war with, not if they should be at war.

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            The point is, why is Russia supposedly the enemy of the US again?

            Really? I thought the point was “Musk must be charged for treason.”

            Didn’t realize you conflated a whole different argument into that one sentence.

            Maybe take your strawman into the fields with the rest of the scarecrows.

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        I think that if we’ve learned anything, it’s that being in those files means nothing.

        At least in a huge portion of the West.

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        But Russia isn’t Israel. That the Mossad could force Musk to do anything they want doesn’t mean, Putin can too.
        I think, this time it’s just Putin genuinely thinking that having his own Starlink would have made the Ukraine war so much easier - especially if his satellites would also have some electronic warfare equipment on board for jamming the real Starlink.

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    Calling Musk an “American” is surely stretching the truth a bit, innit?

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      He has lived there since 1989 and has a US citizenship since 2002.

      One can always obviously argue that it doesn’t count and that he is South African because of his Father and because he was born there, and/or Canadian because his mother is Canadian, but in that case the telephone is a Scottish (Alexander Graham Bell), gramophone a Russian (Emile Berliner) and the zipper a Swedish (Gideon Sundback) invention - all made by US immigrants with citizenships.

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        I almost edited my comment to revise my position, and I was waiting for someone to call me out. I’m glad you did. Immigrants built the US (Canada too), and fully earnestly I believe it’s what makes America great. I would be angry if someone questioned, say, Ilhan Omar’s citizenship and patriotism because she was born elsewhere. I can’t not hold that opinion simply because Musk is a piece of shit.

        So without snark, I don’t question his citizenship. I don’t believe he holds the values I think make an “American” (or, uncomfortably, maybe he does…), but for better or for worse, a citizen he is.

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        Anyone who legitimately thinks he’s a genius better bring a shovel to their next iq test.

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          Ol’ Pooty-poot is on a strict mushroom diet. Kept in the dark and fed bullshit.

          Perfect environment for Musk to thrive

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      I can see him mixing up the terms ‘American’ and ‘Asset’. At this point, they are quite synonymous.