LOL, loyalty.
I was completely decided to switch to AMD, but now I might go Intel…
I really like my 7800xt and 5800x3D, they’re good enough for what I need. I do not like AMD as a business, or frankly, any of the alternatives.
If/When my parts die, I really don’t know what I’ll do. Even if I didn’t hate what these companies stand for, I couldn’t afford the insanely inflated prices of their products right now. I might just be priced out of the hobby.
I expressed this earlier, but graphics was the original priority of AMD/Nvidia.
Not just gaming.
Workstation work and other niches made up a serious sale of shares. And AMD/Nvidia have always invested a ton exploring those niches.
Hence I mean to imply:
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…Don’t make gaming so self-important, at least not more than it was.
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But also, these corporations were not “loyal to gamers” even before the AI bubble. They had fingers in the pies, and the press documented their many exploits against gamers.
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The reasons I got an AMD GPU for my gaming machine:
- much better support for Linux gaming
That’s it. That’s the list.
Neither Nvidia nor AMD (nor also-ran Intel) have come out with meaningfully novel hardware approaches in a long fucking time. It’s all horizontal scaling on the die (plus “let’s add more memory”) combined with incremental efficiency improvements in die layouts and chip lithography process / feature size.
This is why monopolies are bad. They have a vested interest in acquiring and/or killing any company - indeed, any innovation - that has even a slight potential to disrupt their market dominance.
Your info is out of date. Nvidia drivers on Linux are trivial to install these days. They provide a deb repo (and others) with both the proprietary and open source drivers. Add, install, done.
“Done”, until the complexity of being an out of tree kernel driver causes yet another issue… suspend has been broken for months on 615+ series
It has? My laptop and desktop haven’t had any problems with it. They’ve been suspending and resuming just fine.
I did have one problem where on my desktop, the latest version caused everything to go really slowly, but downgrading fixed it. But that’s part of using the latest drivers, instead of a stable version. You can get the same problems using the latest version of any in-tree driver, or the kernel itself.
desktop haven’t had any problems
did have one problem where on my desktop
Nonetheless, having fixable problems are still problems that will be a hard barrier for prospective users to adopt.
i’m loyal to my radeon that is already in my system.
Nvidia has shat the bed, now AMD has a chance to publicly say something like:
While our primary focus at the moment is data centers, we remain commited to consumers with a special focus on gaming, this is why we are very happy to announce a new consumer division inside AMD! They remain commited to providing cost effective consumer and gaming CPUs and GPUs, and will keep developing Ryzen and Radeon products.
They will just follow what Nvidia does even now.
Wonder who Lisa Su will fuck to be like big boi Huang
You think they give a fuck about your pennies?
Good PR is valuable.
Ikr? But it’s more valuable to create artificial scarcity. Them saying we used to be the good guys is like the Republicans bragging about slavery.
AMD never misses a chance to miss a chance.
Then again, when the competition isn’t your cousin anymore maybe you stop going easy on them.
They are also hoping to kill the consumer market, it’s too much effort and can’t be manipulated as easily by taking a b2b customer CEO out to lunch on your yacht.
It’s probably easier in b2b because you can either show Max performance or Max performance per watt to close the business. For b2c, you need marketing and more downstream collaboration for products.
Absolutely, it’s a whole production to be competitive in b2c. On the other hand, I think doing well in B2C has downstream benefits for business hardware sales (ASSUMING the market is not captured via backroom deals and the opinion of normal humans is a factor in sales).
Sigh, you are probably right.
Though good PR is valuable.
Speak for yourself. I’d be down for a nice lunch and a yacht trip. Maybe even some seduction! I wanted to buy a new gaming PC for a few years now anyway.
Tell them you want like a thousand threadrippers, but then excuse yourself to the bathroom, say you was allergic to something in the food, and that it led you to believe you would start with a single consumer-grade card.
And a threadripper. And I see it more like the sample than an actual purchase. So of course it’s free.
Okay it’s been a while since I was in the hardware game but are not Radeons made by ATI and not AMD?
AMD bought ATI in 2006
ATI got bought out by AMD a long time ago.
Make good GPUs, sell them at reasonable prices. Call me if you need any further advice.
Companies: I’ll take your entire stock! And I’ll pay more than you’re asking!
amd: best we can do is nvidia -50usd
The 9070 XT was like $300 cheaper than the 5070 Ti for a pretty long time
Nice Gamer’s Nexus reference
Nice. Impressive. Let’s see Lisa Su’s affairs.
she is the cousin of JENSEN huang, almost if they are the same person.
has she been alone with Huang Jenson?
SWEET HOOOME ALABAMAA
I remember the good ol’ days… Before AMD owned the Radeon name. I don’t think that’s helping them much.
Linux drivers for ATI were absolute trash prior to the AMD purchase. At that time Nvidia had substantially better support on Linux, ATI cards were basically useless.
Shortly after the AMD purchase the ATI drivers finally became useful.
modprobe fglrx #pleaseThis fact alone is why AMD gets my money.
Each time I see a thread about GPUs, I have to remind myself that most users aren’t on Linux. Me? I love having the upstream amdgpu drivers!
Indeed. AMD GPUs work well on Linux, compared to the mess Linux drivers are, functional but with lots of issues and also loss in performance.
I mean what’s option B?
Seize the means of production?
Capitalism fans when exchange value is prioritised:
With the way the circular financing is going to unravel, we’re either going to have to fight their creditors for it, or pick up an old fab for the price of a used Toyota.
I would be down for a bunch of silicon coops taking the place of these abominations.
It might happen: https://www.wired.com/story/22-year-old-builds-chips-parents-garage/
He’s turned it into a business to create small fabs.
i bet creditors LOVE stuff that depreciates quickly
Intel integrated graphics
There are the Intel ARC cards, but they’re aimed at datacenters too.
Goddamnit im cursed, i heard that.
you mean nvidia integrated graphics? https://www.crn.com/news/components-peripherals/2025/intel-nvidia-deal-will-create-new-class-of-integrated-graphics-laptops-huang-says
Meh, I don’t want another company with deep ties with Isn’treal
i had a 9070 xt, it was ass
As someone who wants to move away from Nvidia, can I ask what issues you had with it? I know it’s not a super high end GPU by any means, but it seems pretty decent on paper?
i had to re launch steam everytime i brought the display out of sleep mode in windows 11. it was honestly very annoying. fans was loud af. but the real issue was the games sucked. helldivers 2 and arc raiders both totally ruined by incompetent devs. borderlands 4 is nothing compared to 2. etc… the juice wasnt worth the squeeze IMO. might be worth after the crash
You’re complaining about the software you used, not even the drivers and you’re saying that it’s the GPU’s fault? This doesn’t make any sense.
Wait, which video card makes BL4 as good as BL2? What did you replace your 9070 XT with to bring back the Gunzerker class?
Which custom design did you bought? From Sapphire? XFX? Powercolor?
Depending on the design the card can be loud. This is very common if people buy the cheapest design for some 340w card for example.
Best premium design is the sapphire nitro+ 9070 / 9070xt but also the most costly.
