This got removed from politics because “Video links are not allowed” apparently? Pretty weird considering that most politicians say stuff on video nowadays and not really writing articles anymore since the invention of the radio pretty much lol. Hope it’s a better fit here, this is the kind of stuff people should be aware of.
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/73859928
cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/13118934
Josh Turek of Iowa, Democrat, comes out with one of the worst anti-trans ads yet.
Not only is it an anti-sports ad, it proposes a ban on federal funding for gender affirming care. That would hit all medicaid and medicare patients, and any ACA federally-subsidized plans as well.
So, surrender then. Right? Because that’s what not voting is- a surrender.
Someone is going to win regardless of your involvement. But you do you.
Let’s do a tally.
By voting and not selecting either candidate for this race, it sends a crystal clear message to the Democratic party that anti-trans campaigns are a losing strategy; they already know that, but the dnc is dense as fuck and needs to see it again after 2020 and 2024. Voting for the Democrat in this race is rubber stamping anti-trans stances, they’ll move right again
It’s not crystal clear though because other people still vote. So they would really have no idea you sat out because of this
Read carefully. I didn’t say “don’t vote at all”. I said “don’t vote for this seat”. They will have statistics for the ballots which didn’t vote for the Senate race but voted for other government positions.
And how do they know that the trans issue was specifically why? What if they see that and attribute it to some other issue he supports? There is no clear indication
Perhaps by amplifying the voice of trans people in the build-up and aftermath of the coordinated campaign.
If they can’t figure out that being against human rights was the cause for their loss, then I want nothing to do with them until they figure it out and change course.
Anyone who is against human rights does not deserve my vote.
You forgot Republicans is anti a lot more, and when they get more votes and win, more people suffer and the message to dems is they aren’t doing enough shitty things.
Are you okay with the republican cuts to Medicare, ACA, aid support around the world which has resulted in hundreds of thousands of kid deaths?
Because by not voting against them, you are showing you don’t care enough to stop them.
So what I’m hearing is that you’re ok with trans genocide. Human rights are non-negotiable.
So what I’m hearing is that you have no solution to the reality of the choices here. It’s either D, R, 3rd party, or not voting. Play out each of those voting scenarios for me. How does it impact the national layout of Congress?
What I’m hearing is that you find the genocide of trans people an acceptable compromise between the 2 major parties. You would rather vote for a Democrat that wants to federally ban trans healthcare than push back against the Democrats even a little.
I don’t live in Iowa, so I don’t know what the other primary candidates were like. Does it suck that this is the winner of the Democrat party? Absolutely, but apparently that’s what a majority of Democrats in Iowa wanted.
No fucking clue, but what the reality of the situation is that either a D or R are going to win this race.
What is your solution to this scenario? Let Hinson win so that there can be even more harm?
The more seats the Republicans win/hold in Congress, the worse off the entire country will be.
You don’t have to live in Iowa for me to understand this, because you’ve already made it pretty clear what side you’d be on if it were a decision you need to make. And it’s not on the side of trans people.
Interesting that there are several people that simply REFUSE to answer what they would do in this scenario.
Given the choice of Turek or Hinson, what would you do?
Don’t give me philosophical what-if scenarios. This is the reality of the ballot box in Iowa.
Turek or Hinson?
Funny claiming the rights are non negotiable yet you are giving up far more by allowing a republican to win instead.
You might be able to change his mind about trans rights.
You 100% will not change the republicans and they want even more people to lose their rights and care even less about their lives.
I’m loving in the real world where voting has major consequences and trying to deal with reducing the amount of hatred and saving lives. Not voting against republicans will cost countless more lives to be lost.
The Democrat wants the same thing as the Republican. There is no changing either of their minds. I am one of their targets. Don’t fucking talk down to me like I don’t know what I’m talking about.
Really so they are exactly the same? Minus all the much worse stuff that the republicans also want.
But that doesn’t matter to you?
What is your solution?
One of them will win and you don’t care if its the worse one who will hurt more?
Where did I say that they were exactly the same? Why are you being disingenuous?
Your previous message said they want the same things.
What are you going to do to prevent the republican from winning?
What about all the people they will hurt with their policies?
Do you think your life will honestly be better with them in power?
Explain how your non vote is going to save their lives? You are okay with it and more by not voting and getting someone even worse in office.
At least voting them in maybe their fellow dems can change their mind. Getting 4 more years of a republican means 4 more years of anti rights and deaths.
My choices would be between “the person that wants to kill me”, and “the person that wants to kill me”. I’m a target of their genocide.
Also where does this person want to kill you? Amazing how you made that up so you don’t have to face that not voting for them will lead to deaths by your inaction
Trans healthcare is lifesaving. It’s really fucking telling that you either don’t know that or choose to ignore it so you can come in on your high horse and tell the trans people that they’re overreacting because a Democrat wants to ban trans healthcare.
Fact is you have two real choices because of how elections work
Fact is if you don’t push for the lesser, even going as far as to push people to not vote for them, you are actively pushing for the worse person to win
Fact is the more dems that win, the more power the whole party gets. That means more progressives have real power to change and can sway the more right members of the party.
Fact is anyone pushing “they are the same” and not voting are responsible for the bad caused by the right winning more and more and helping to push their Nazi agenda.
In your words one who wants to kill you, and one who wants to kill you and many others and you would rather the second win so you can feel smug about it.
Where is the line? At what point are you unwilling to support a candidate over their anti-trans stance? Banning trans healthcare should be enough.
What are you going to do? How are you standing up for all of those that they are going to hurt over 4 years?
Nah, fuck that bullshit. I’m trans. If you don’t care enough about the lives of and my people to vote against transphobes, I don’t really care what happens to the rest of the country at that point. If the entire society wants to go bigot, well then you all can go straight to hell. Let democracy fall. You clearly don’t deserve it.
So you enjoy fascism, eh?
The Democrat is fascist too, what part of that don’t you understand?
All the parts that you don’t, mainly- what fascism means.
Ok, so then explain the difference between the genocidal Democrat and the genocidal Republican. Specifically this race.
If you don’t know by now… then this is way above my pay grade. I’d suggest you start paying attention to what is happening to everyone and not just you for a start.
Good to know that you consider my human rights to be an acceptable compromise.
Your hypocrisy is fucking mind blowing dude! You’ve no place tonsoak of rights while simultaneously suggesting that people not vote.
You advocate for absolutely nothing but fascism.
Stfu psyop clown.
Kapo.
MAGA appreciates your centrism.
I’ll tell you what… you point out to me a moment in history where doing nothing change the outcome for the better and I’ll concede the discussion.
Abolition.
I’m not the Dengist Tibetans & Uyghur genocide apologist, so you tell me.
So you have no answer. As expected. Thanks for playing!
I’ll tell you what… Point to any comment in this entire thread where someone said to do nothing, lmfao.