• Jerkface (any/all)@lemmy.ca
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    Progressives who are not vegan are also not progressive. If you believe that cruelty and violence against vulnerable individuals for frivolous or commercial reasons is justified or in any way acceptable, how dare you call yourself progressive.

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        12 days ago

        Usually in Europe you can get away with having only one thing on the menu, which would be fries. Took a trip to the capitol of the land of the french fries - Brussles, Belgium once, probably one of the most annoying trips I’ve ever had.

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      13 days ago

      The best fries are made with duck fat. Sorry, it’s true. They are fucking delicious. It will make you ask “is this a normal potato?” They are that good and beyond.

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        13 days ago

        The best fries are the best ones you can have depending on your diet, and in this case a working brain with morality and ethics.
        You’re being a shit for no reason, your comment is the same as the idiots who go into vegan communities and ppst about how good bacon is. It’s real fucking childish and dumb.

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          13 days ago

          No, it’s childish and dumb to take a comment about food like it’s an attack on someone’s personal choices around what they eat. I was literally just talking about my favorite way to make fries.

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          12 days ago

          I mean yeah, wrong place for engagement, but if one loves something so much, why don’t share it? Better than gate keeping. In this comment, at least, he wasn’t criticizing or shaming veganism, so I’ll defend his (even if morally questionable) standpoint.

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            11 days ago

            Thanks. I previously worked for Microsoft during a a genocide in which the tech work I did contributed to the Palestinian Genocide. Previously worked. I was fired for speaking out against it. I respect those that are able to be vegan.

            However, that being said. The mortality of many vegans that like to grandstand againt someone mentioning “duck fat” does not come from a perspective of the systemic structures that cause the cruelty. They instead see it as an individual moral choice that is apart from the the privilege of the conditions that allow them to be vegan in the first place.

            It is, unfortunately, mostly virtue signaling and not based on perspective.

            I was fortunate enough to be able to not be at risk for my daughter starving when I spoke out against my companies contribution to genocide. But, I don’t judge the individuals that remain working for Microsoft as “the problem”. I understand that the structures of power force those, even with the same understanding, to remain silent.

            This is not to say that I’m not a hypocrite. That I’m not aware that my privilege lets me talk about how I like to cook fries in duck fat because they taste good. I do know that.

            But, we all need to prioritize and understand the awful things that are a part of modern western society. I think that “grandstanding” veganism and making it the core of ones personality comes from a good individual moral compass. But, it shows that that person has anchored to a specific harm in order to ignore others. As we all do. Because, if that person had the perspective to understand larger issues, they would be more understanding.

            I don’t scream at the college student excited they got a job at Microsoft and yell at them for their support. I understand they are an individual. I don’t treat them as the problem.

            Vegans that act like this often are the perfect example of someone that views the world and its problems as a result of individual choices. It is often from a perspective of peak individualism. Which, ironically, is the reason for most of the cruelty that comes from our current social and economic structures.

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          13 days ago

          I think this is a weirdly defensive take. I went vegan for about one year (20’years ago): primarily for health reasons (also ditched drugs & alcohol and started exercising.) I felt great and while I did not continue beyond the year, it did change my relationship with and understanding of food. I fully support people to make whatever dietary choices they wish, for whatever reason they wish.

          Taste is clearly subjective, but humans are biologically predisposed to find certain molecules more pleasurable to consume than others. Some textures are also more desirable. Potatoes can be enjoyed in many forms, but unlike a carrot do not lend themselves to being enjoyed raw. Cooked foods usually include the introduction of fats, particularly when frying. I propose that the complexity of animal fats, to the human organism, is an objectively superior culinary experience.

          As far as health and morality, especially in the context of factory raised animals and highly processed foods, veganism can be more healthy, moral, and still enjoyable.

          But denying the simple nature of the food chemistry seems more unreasonable (outside of a vegan/vegetarian specific forum) than recognizing the superior taste of frying starches in animal fat.

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        13 days ago

        Dog penises are actually delicuous. You have to rip tgem off the animals fresh. The dog will bleed out, don’t worry about that thing. You’ll ask: is that a normal penis? They are that good and everyone sgould eat them.

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          13 days ago

          This is why no one takes Vegans seriously. Like, I don’t really have a problem with being Vegan. I actually respect it. But, do you honestly feel like comments like this do anything to help people understand the cruelty? Seriously. Because it just makes you sound like a crazy person. It doesn’t do anything to help your cause when you respond like this to someone talking about how they like to cook fries.

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      13 days ago

      It’s a breakfast dish from the southeastern US. Like many of our dishes, it’s just a way to stretch calories using cheap ingredients. You cook a few pieces of sausage in a skillet then use the oil, some butter, and flour to make a light roux which you break up the sausage into. Serve gravy over southern style biscuits.

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        13 days ago

        I mean the name is pretty self explanatory, I have never had them but wasn’t confused. Do you know what biskets are? Do you know what gravy is?

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          13 days ago

          Yeah I know what a biscuit is. Is what Americans call cookies, that’s not what’s pictured apparently contains sausage which in the matrix space of "what is a cookie* is off on a distant planet in another galaxy.

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          13 days ago

          Biscuits are stuff like digestives, or jammy dodgers or bourbon biscuits. Gravy is bistro granules.

          Scones are what they’re called.

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            13 days ago

            I mean that’s just one form of gravy, you can use any gravy really. The pictured gravy is more popular in southern states, I think it has sausage in it and I am not sure what the base is, probably like a milk roux.

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    13 days ago

    Fleshlights. Ok, but I know that I don’t really read whatever that actually says because of the color issues you soooo poorly constructed that meme around…